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Message: [QUOTE="PatMark, post: 3826706, member: 1008"] I think folks are underestimating that now Shady is recruiting with updated practice facilities, a planned updated football building, a very aggressive (and well paid) staff and the Big Ten in his back pocket. It's ok to be impressed with what they have done on paper so far. We can't hate it just because we aren't on the same trajectory. Of course, the results on the field are the important thing and we will see if he can get that going. In reality, he only needs 8ish wins for people to be impressed in that division. [/QUOTE]