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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 5114561, member: 4809"] agree with the first part of the last sentence. i remember when babers was hired most everyone was on the band wagon with him. syracuse the new fast???? and other stuff. sorry i take Any new guy on the block with cautious hopeful optimism. yes, at the moment he has recruited better than your decades statement. good for us, also at the moment. Good enough? i reserve a few years before i get to excited. these days it maybe who has the got the money that calls the shot. the sched is somewhat favorable this year. which is good as everyone is new players, coaches. admin personnel etc. yes i do watch very closely our recruiting rivals . no denying rutgers is crushing it in football and basketbell . yes nil money is probably involved. yes schiano has been a bad coach. pike is not. other than syracuse and rutgers i do not watch d1 football anymore. it imho has been ruined for me due to nil. same with hoops. [/QUOTE]