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Message: [QUOTE="sufan59, post: 5529370, member: 8789"] So what would you call them then? Because they certainly aren’t just another program to Syracuse. When we do play them, it’s hostile. If they have success (see what I did there), it makes Syracuse recruiting a bit tougher in the northeast. When they are failing, it makes Syracuse recruiting in the northeast a bit easier. I think from a home turf perspective, our goal is to be at the level or eventually better than Penn State. We got to comfortably clear Rutgers, UConn, Pittsburgh, and Boston College first. If we can ever get to a level where we are recruiting at Penn State levels in the northeast mixed in with Fran Brown and staff ability to get talented players out Florida and Texas. We will have the talent to compete at all levels. [/QUOTE]