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Message: [QUOTE="Rocco, post: 845906, member: 51"] I don't disagree with you that their "tradition" lacks any ounce of success. In fact, it's laughable; however, they have had some success over the last few years and have undoubtedly beat out Syracuse for some pretty good recruits during that time (besides Ray Rice). Further, Northeast college football over the 15 years hasn't been trail-blazing, so new rivals do form. If this was 1990, Rutgers wasn't even worthy of being called a "fart". Things have changed a little. Like Muggsy Bogues little. I do not consider [B]PSU[/B] a rival anymore as they have simply taken a major leap ahead of us in everything football-related, especially in the Northeast. Most importantly, they don't care about Syracuse football. Ohio St, Michigan, MSU and Nebraska are wayyy more important than us. Would love to battle with them annually, but I don't see that happening besides the games we have set down the road. I am excited that we play [B]BC[/B] again, as they are natural geographic rivals, and also fit into the private school mix as well. [B]Pitt[/B] is another I love that we play every year - the "lil Steelers" live in a football state with great recruiting beds. Holy Cross - no. Army - no. Colgate - no. That leaves us with [I]Rutgers[/I], the state university of NJ (I didn't capitalize a few words there for a reason). They lack the culture of the past, they are missing the brand name attractiveness, they are a blazing dumpster fire and they will soon belong as a benign member of the B1G (belly laugh). The issue now is that it will be an ACC vs B1G matchup in NE. Notre Dame vs Penn St would own the ACC vs B1G matchup in NYC markets, but Syracuse versus Rutgers would be second. There is something to be said for that. You cannot deny that. Honestly, at the end of the day, I would like to get a chance to beat down on Rutty every year. They lack any historic value besides the "first football game ever played" - [U]WGAF[/U] though. The old PSU rivalry is a thing of the past; playing in Chestnut Hill will be fun, certainly not exhilarating; the SPitt panthers have been with us for several decades now; and nowadays Colgate plays Bucknell, Albany and Lehigh (What?). I choose to look at the present from a rivalry perspective and Rutgers is certainly one of ours over the last 10 years or so. [/QUOTE]

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