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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4170890, member: 5685"] If ND has already committed then why would you let them pick? If you are using the pick as a carrot fine, but if they already said yes it is a dumb move. Ok so brand and quality have no value, Cincy and Toledo are the same. Louisville had more value in 2012 than Cincy did. That doesn't mean Cincy has no value as #16 today. No one is saying UCF will become FSU, but they could easily become like Louisville or GA Tech. That has value. You add a good TV market. You add a school that has 60k students and plenty of future alumni. It is a long term play based demographics. You also put more roots in Florida which will help in recruiting. Not so much vs the SEC or major programs but definitely over the mid to lower level P5 schools. Why leave them in the B12 where they will take talent away from the ACC and attention to football in Florida. [/QUOTE]