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Message: [QUOTE="CIL, post: 469389, member: 22"] I agree with you that we need to improve what we have. So far we have done a medicore job at best with that. However, there are also a lot of assumptions in your post, and I strongly disagree with a lot of them. [LIST] [*][U]"3/4 of those teams we do not recruit against"[/U] -- I would add that we do in fact recruit against a decent chunk of them, and will be recruiting against most of them in the future. Teams tend to recruit against teams from within their conference. That is an undeniable fact. Currently our biggest competitors as it stands right now are Penn ST, Pitt, RU, UCONN, and probably BC. 4 out of the 5 are in a major BCS conference. Take a kid like Gus Edwards, who is the type of high 3 star lengthy athlete we need more of. Offers from SU, BC, Uconn, Maryland, Miami, FSU (supposedly but I have my doubts), Pitt, Purdue, RU, temple, UCF, and UVA. Throw out FSU and that's 5 ACC schools. In our heyday we ran up against UVA (Ogletree, Ferguson), MD, and VPI all the time. [*][U][U][COLOR=#000000] "Kids outside of the NE go to SU to either get away or because they are over looked. Facilities for them isn't the major factor."[/COLOR][/U][/U][COLOR=#000000] -- I can't tell if this is serious or not. My guess is it is. We certainly aren't going to get 4 or 5 star recruits from GA or FL hand over fist. I get that, but once again, at our zenith we landed some very solid recruits from FL (Abrams, etc.). WVU was able to land Geno Smith from Miami who had offers from bama, Clemson, LSU, Mich, etc. Same for Teddy Bridgewater at the Ville. It happens.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=#141414]"[U]Kids in the NE are under recruited and do not get to calls from schools with the nice digs.[/U]" -- This is patently false. Tell that to Ishaq (ND), Ebo, Easley (UF), Gronkowski (Zona), Daquan Jones (PSU), Skov (Standford), Dukes (PSU), Paulus 1 and 2, etc. That's just NY. The top two kids in Mass last year went to Ohio St. Don't get me started about Pennsylvania or New Jersey, who send kids to major powers year in and year out.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000][COLOR=#141414]"[U]We are comparable to who we recruit against"[/U] -- Okay, so let's take the ACC and plug in regional rivalries instead.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [/LIST] [LIST=1] [*]RU: [url]http://www.scarletknights.com/football/stadium/hale.asp[/url] [*]Pitt: [url]http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/facilities/pitt-facilities-upmc.html[/url] (note: they have their own massive locker room at Heinz as well, state of the art) [*]PSU: [url]http://www.gopsusports.com/facilities/lasch-building.html[/url] [*]UCONN: [url]http://www.uconnhuskies.com/facilities/burton-family-complex.html[/url] [*]BC: [url]http://www.bceagles.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/yawkey-centerNEW.html[/url] [*]WVU: [url]http://www.wvusports.com/page.cfm?section=7924[/url] [/LIST] Out of that list, I'd say the only one we are superior to is BC at this point in time. [/QUOTE]

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