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Message: [QUOTE="CousCuse, post: 3412750, member: 4127"] The two really egregious recruiting violations that should bring down severe sanctions on a program are: 1. Paying players or their family and handlers substantial sums of money to play for that program, and 2. Systematic grade fixing, which thereby allows players to be academically eligible to play when they aren't. Syracuse was not guilty of either of these things in either NCAA investigation. Can you imagine the elite players and even more success that Coach Boeheim would have had if he wasn't kneecapped twice? These are facts, not my view through Orange colored glasses. How many more wins and how many more championships, you have to ask yourself. [/QUOTE]