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Message: [QUOTE="wfschrec, post: 740709, member: 361"] No but apparently you don't have much knowledge of this program. If you look at where we year the prior 6 years than 8-5 would have made many folks a hell of a lot happier than the actual on field product. You also have to realize that over the history of the SU program no matter what decade it was we always played heavyweights ... it is an expectation of SU fans ... in the early 20s SU was the only team to beat Nebraska ... Nebraska was the only team to beat the vaunted 4 horsemen ... into the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s ... whether it was Pop Warner led Pitt ... Paterno's PSU ... the Canes ... Nebraska in the Dome ... OU in the early 90s ... Auburn ... home and home with Michigan ... Tee Martin and UT ... SU has always played the heavies and while they didn't always win they always played tough even in the Malloney era when they went head to head with the likes of OSU ... there is a lot of pride in that program and for those that have followed it a long time Wagner just doesn't get you pumped that is just how it is. This was a program that has been blue collar and tough since 1888 .. and it won't change. And as far as making cracks about our "snow bowl game" that is fine ... its been a bad decade I admit ... but if you want to run with the big dogs you have to play them. On the other hand don't give me the ACC is a bunch of worldbeaters crap either ... you played two ranked teams during the regular season ... Clemson and Florida ... and UF put it to you guys ... the rest of the ACC is mediocre at best ... and there was a reason that the bowl game vs NIU had a poor TV rating ... because it wasn't a marque match up no one cared ... they would rather watch Clemson vs LSU or Bama vs ND ... had FSU played a BCS heavyweight the viewership would have been much better. No one wants to watch a blow out over Rome School for the Deaf ... its not fun. Truthfully it doesn't do the program much either except provide a glorified scrimmage ... I'm not content on winning a paper schedule ... just not ... its my opinion ... but the fact is you only get better raising your level of competition not running from it ... not a hard concept. [/QUOTE]

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