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Every Thursday night of the football season at 7PM, Head Coach Scott Shafer does a call0in show with Matt Park on TK99, (99.5 FM) in Syracuse. To submit a question during the show, you can call 1-888-746-2873 or, locally 315-424-8599. You can send a question to Matt Park via Twitter at Matt Park 1. You can also send one in ahead of time with this link:

http://suathletics.syr.edu/sb_output.aspx?form=4



MY QUESTION


“Coach, there’s a saying in football that if you have two quarterbacks, you don’t have a quarterback. Most coaches prefer a situation where everything is organized around one guy, like we had last year when Ryan Nassib threw 471 passes and Charley Loeb threw 1. But Northwestern effectively used two quarterbacks with different skill sets. Could that work at Syracuse with Drew Allen and Terrell Hunt?”




COACH SHAFER


Matt suggested it was “good to be back home”. Coach Shafer: “The team is ready to get back home and play in the Dome and put on a good show. They’ll show the improvement of week 1 to week 2 to week 3 and get our students cranked up.” (I thought the ‘greatest improvement’ was week 1 to 2: now it’s week 3?)


I called in my question. Coach said it was a great question which made me feel good until he said that to every other caller, as well. “The biggest difference is that they’ve been using those quarterbacks for a couple of years now. Your comment about two quarterbacks being no quarterbacks is very accurate. These too kids haven’t had the opportunity to play college football yet. We have to look at all the pieces and parts and develop a formula and part of that is the quarterback position.


Our goal is to gain at least four yards on first down and we move our percentage up to 57% so there was improvement form game #1 to Game #2. Sometimes Drew has a muddy picture to look at and when you get that you have to check down or throw it to your Mom in the bleachers. (A muddy picture = coverage.) I liked the way he came back from an interception to lead that touchdown drive. You wouldn’t know it was the same kid.”


He didn’t describe how Allen looked on the next drive after that when he again threw an interception. He did like the way Terrell Hunt performed when he got in there. “There were a couple of missed assignments. The touchdown was supposed to be a hand-off and I liked his fight in getting into the end zone.”


“It’s idealism vs. realism. (?) I just want to see increased productivity at the quarterback position. When we had Max Suter at safety he was backed up by Shamarko Thomas who was a better athlete but his productivity level was down. I challenged them to make the safety position better and give the team a better chance to win, regardless of who was playing at any one time. That’s what we’re doing with Drew and Terrell. Aside from turnovers, the position was improved. We’ve got to get rid of the turnovers. They’ve been the difference between winning or losing since football began.”


“Our defense handed them some opportunities. We had some young people in the secondary who were extremely poor with their eyes and discipline.” Matt credited the coach with taking over a defense that “ranked in the 100’s” into one that was “the calling card of our bowl teams. Coach: “That was a veteran Northwestern team with lots of weapons. They were very good on offense and we didn’t play very well on defense. The breakdowns involved poor communication. The safety and cornerback were repeating calls.” (I’m not sure what that meant.) “We’ve had some good games defensively where we got away with things- guys streaking open. Northwestern just hit ‘em all. I have all the confidence in the coaches and the players.”


Matt said “It’s about 22 positions, not just one- really 24 with the specialists. “ Coach: The formula we believe in is to chip away at controlables. We need to start faster on both offense and defense. We’ve put up a clock to put pressure on them in practice. Nobody is as disappointed as me but not discouraged. We have some young people in marquee positions who haven’t played much at this level.”


A caller, (didn’t get his name), asked how the freshman were doing and which ones we will see more of this year. Coach praised Brisley Estime for coming back from his drop vs. Penn State to catch 4 passes for 54 yards. “We decided we had to get him the ball and not wait until mid-season to work him into the offense.” He also had good words for Kendall Moore, and was pleased he had a good game as he’s from the south side of Chicago. Coach recalled recruiting there for Northern Illinois, “when we didn’t have any money”. He’d spend the whole day in the area, going from school to school. He was amazed at how many good basketball players were there, saying that Chicago has probably the second best high school basketball in the country to New York. Moore comes from Simeon High, which produced Derek Rose and Jabari Parker, among others and the 6-6 Moore played there as well. “6-6 250 pound kids who can run like that are hard to find. I’ve always liked big, rangy tight ends because I always hated them when I had to defend against them.” (That’s the concept coach: recruit the sort of guys you used to hate so the other DC can hate them.)


Coach likes the fact that both Estime and Moore played both ways in high school. “My best secondary players were usually offensive standouts in high school. Have you seen Brisley’s highlight film? If you do, you may well wonder why we have him of offense. The coaches are fighting over these guys. That’s what you want. You have 2-fors and 3-fors. 2-fors can play on both offense and defense and 3-fors can play in the kicking game, too. You want as many of those as you can get.”


Coach also likes two quarterbacks we won’t see this year: Austin Wilson and Mitch Kimble. “Great skill sets and big strong kids.” But…”hopefully we won’t have to use too many freshmen. Woody Hayes said that for every freshman you use there will be a loss in you record. I’m not so sure he wasn’t right.”


Kyle in Baldwinsville asked about the schedule- start out with two Big Ten powers and then playing two weak teams in Wagner and Tulane. Coach: We used to start out with a couple of tough games when I was in the Mid-American conference. It gives you a chance to assess your team early and improve later. You could start out with cupcakes but it could give you a false sense of power. You have to manage it, (differing levels of completion) and maintain your focus”.


They talked about ways to increase attendance and concluded “Winning games always helps boost attendance. We have to fill the loud house. It’s a special place, loud even when it’s not full. When I coached at Michigan in the Big House, it wasn’t half as loud as the Carrier Dome. Two years ago we got in West Virginia’s head and last year Louisville couldn’t audible. The administration has done a great job of thinking outside the box- like putting that ribbon around the stands. We have to focus on the staff, the players and the recruiting. If I try to focus on something else, I can’t do someone else’s job. We have to get the team winning so people will want to come to the Dome and make it a blast.”


Alonzo called in wondering if we have adequate receiving talent. Coach Shafer thinks we do. “We have talented kids but lack experience. Jarrod West hasn ‘t been a #1 receiver. Ashton Broyld was playing in the backfield. Fleming, unfortunately, broke his foot. Estime has plenty of talent.”


John, a patron at Red Robin wondered why we had so many balls batted won. Coach: “When you have 22 guys trying to knock the hell out of each other it’s never about one guy. Sometimes it is the quarterback’s fault, if he stares down a guy. Sometimes the route doesn’t develop and the quarterback is waiting for the receivers- and the defensive lineman sees that and looks where he is looking.”


Frank in Liverpool asked what the differences were between coaching on the sidelines and coaching from the booth. Coach said he’d only been on the field once before this year-0 Jim Harbaugh asked him to coach one game from the field at Stanford. “I love that guy. I had a blast out there. But I couldn’t see what I used to see from the booth and to fix something you have to relay it through someone else. You don’t really know what happened until you see the film after the game. (That’s why coaches are always saying “I have to look at the film”). The good thing, is I don’t have to. I’ve got Chuck Bullough up there to do that.


He talked about Wagner. “They beat Colgate in the playoffs last year and were a couple of plays away from making the Final Four, (they lost to Eastern Washington 19-29- EW upset Oregon State two weeks ago when the Beavers were ranked #25). They are averaging 34 points a game Dominqiue Williams, (#25), is averaging 136 rushing yards a game and they are averaging 220 yards per game as a team. They have a Duke transfer who’s made some great catches, (Tyree Watkins, #3), and a Purdue transfer playing corner, (Jarrett Dieudonne, #1), so they have some good players. You have to weather the storm. When we played Maine a couple of years ago they pulled out every trick in the playbook. If the other team comes on or makes a surge, we have to step on them like a bug.”
 
Regarding the schedule there is a difference playing in the Mid-American and the ACC...you lose a couple OOC in the MAC and you're going to be fine but playing in the ACC you need wins. I understand the false security thing when you think a position is fine until you go up against some really good competition.

I can see the receiver separation issue and it usually is never just one reason why something isn't working. Allen has to be smarter if the play isn't there.

I like how he gave Bullough a little compliment after the NW game confusion. SS is loyal and I'm not saying won't work out but if he doesn't I wonder how SS will handle that?

I'd like to know since he can't focus on the plays what does he focus on? It has to be kind of weird for him so what does he communicate with his coaches during the game?

When coaches say we need a fast start I agree but sometimes when you struggle to get that fast start you tend to press. You always would like a fast start and when you push that agenda sometimes it can come back to bite you in the butt.
 
Thanks for the taking the time, SWC.

"Muddy picture" probably refers to the D trying to disguise coverage pre-snap; and QB is not sure of coverage when he drops. SS is saying you have to check down when you get that, or just throw it into the stands, rather than force a throw into coverage. Some of Allen's INTs must be from throwing into coverages he is unsure of. So, I expect that we are going to see more dump offs to the RBs, or "throwing it to his mother" in the stands" whenever Allen is unsure. Learning curve stuff. By contrast, one of Nassib's greatest strengths last year was how quickly AND accurately he was able to read coverages last year and then get the ball where it needed to be.

The safety and corners "repeating calls" means that they are confirming verbally to each other the coverage they are supposed to be in once the call is made from the sidelines. It is not unusual to have a different coverage on every play. More importantly, the corners need to know when they do not have deep safety help to their side. There were multiple blown coverages in the NW game.
 
Coach praised Brisley Estime for coming back from his drop vs. Penn State to catch 4 passes for 54 yards. “We decided we had to get him the ball and not wait until mid-season to work him into the offense.”

I thought it was kind of a lousy pass from Allen.
 
I think NWern was a tough matchup for us. Especially with so many new variables on the team this year. I wish the PSU and NWern games were flipped. I think we would have had a better shot at PSU.

I hope to see a couple of packages with hunt moving forward through the season. I'm not saying we should use those packages when and if Allen has some momentum moving down the field but when we are stalling use it as something to maybe boost offense.

Let's hope we get some of our offensive issues ironed out before acc starts because we can still get to championship game. 0-2 suck but it isn't over by any means.
 
Coach praised Brisley Estime for coming back from his drop vs. Penn State to catch 4 passes for 54 yards. “We decided we had to get him the ball and not wait until mid-season to work him into the offense.”

I thought it was kind of a lousy pass from Allen.

The pass wasn't the most catchable but you have to make those plays when you're playing a good team.
 
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Every Thursday night of the football season at 7PM, Head Coach Scott Shafer does a call0in show with Matt Park on TK99, (99.5 FM) in Syracuse. To submit a question during the show, you can call 1-888-746-2873 or, locally 315-424-8599. You can send a question to Matt Park via Twitter at Matt Park 1. You can also send one in ahead of time with this link:

http://suathletics.syr.edu/sb_output.aspx?form=4



MY QUESTION


“Coach, there’s a saying in football that if you have two quarterbacks, you don’t have a quarterback. Most coaches prefer a situation where everything is organized around one guy, like we had last year when Ryan Nassib threw 471 passes and Charley Loeb threw 1. But Northwestern effectively used two quarterbacks with different skill sets. Could that work at Syracuse with Drew Allen and Terrell Hunt?”




COACH SHAFER


Matt suggested it was “good to be back home”. Coach Shafer: “The team is ready to get back home and play in the Dome and put on a good show. They’ll show the improvement of week 1 to week 2 to week 3 and get our students cranked up.” (I thought the ‘greatest improvement’ was week 1 to 2: now it’s week 3?)


I called in my question. Coach said it was a great question which made me feel good until he said that to every other caller, as well. “The biggest difference is that they’ve been using those quarterbacks for a couple of years now. Your comment about two quarterbacks being no quarterbacks is very accurate. These too kids haven’t had the opportunity to play college football yet. We have to look at all the pieces and parts and develop a formula and part of that is the quarterback position.


Our goal is to gain at least four yards on first down and we move our percentage up to 57% so there was improvement form game #1 to Game #2. Sometimes Drew has a muddy picture to look at and when you get that you have to check down or throw it to your Mom in the bleachers. (A muddy picture = coverage.) I liked the way he came back from an interception to lead that touchdown drive. You wouldn’t know it was the same kid.”


He didn’t describe how Allen looked on the next drive after that when he again threw an interception. He did like the way Terrell Hunt performed when he got in there. “There were a couple of missed assignments. The touchdown was supposed to be a hand-off and I liked his fight in getting into the end zone.”


“It’s idealism vs. realism. (?) I just want to see increased productivity at the quarterback position. When we had Max Suter at safety he was backed up by Shamarko Thomas who was a better athlete but his productivity level was down. I challenged them to make the safety position better and give the team a better chance to win, regardless of who was playing at any one time. That’s what we’re doing with Drew and Terrell. Aside from turnovers, the position was improved. We’ve got to get rid of the turnovers. They’ve been the difference between winning or losing since football began.”


“Our defense handed them some opportunities. We had some young people in the secondary who were extremely poor with their eyes and discipline.” Matt credited the coach with taking over a defense that “ranked in the 100’s” into one that was “the calling card of our bowl teams. Coach: “That was a veteran Northwestern team with lots of weapons. They were very good on offense and we didn’t play very well on defense. The breakdowns involved poor communication. The safety and cornerback were repeating calls.” (I’m not sure what that meant.) “We’ve had some good games defensively where we got away with things- guys streaking open. Northwestern just hit ‘em all. I have all the confidence in the coaches and the players.”


Matt said “It’s about 22 positions, not just one- really 24 with the specialists. “ Coach: The formula we believe in is to chip away at controlables. We need to start faster on both offense and defense. We’ve put up a clock to put pressure on them in practice. Nobody is as disappointed as me but not discouraged. We have some young people in marquee positions who haven’t played much at this level.”


A caller, (didn’t get his name), asked how the freshman were doing and which ones we will see more of this year. Coach praised Brisley Estime for coming back from his drop vs. Penn State to catch 4 passes for 54 yards. “We decided we had to get him the ball and not wait until mid-season to work him into the offense.” He also had good words for Kendall Moore, and was pleased he had a good game as he’s from the south side of Chicago. Coach recalled recruiting there for Northern Illinois, “when we didn’t have any money”. He’d spend the whole day in the area, going from school to school. He was amazed at how many good basketball players were there, saying that Chicago has probably the second best high school basketball in the country to New York. Moore comes from Simeon High, which produced Derek Rose and Jabari Parker, among others and the 6-6 Moore played there as well. “6-6 250 pound kids who can run like that are hard to find. I’ve always liked big, rangy tight ends because I always hated them when I had to defend against them.” (That’s the concept coach: recruit the sort of guys you used to hate so the other DC can hate them.)


Coach likes the fact that both Estime and Moore played both ways in high school. “My best secondary players were usually offensive standouts in high school. Have you seen Brisley’s highlight film? If you do, you may well wonder why we have him of offense. The coaches are fighting over these guys. That’s what you want. You have 2-fors and 3-fors. 2-fors can play on both offense and defense and 3-fors can play in the kicking game, too. You want as many of those as you can get.”


Coach also likes two quarterbacks we won’t see this year: Austin Wilson and Mitch Kimble. “Great skill sets and big strong kids.” But…”hopefully we won’t have to use too many freshmen. Woody Hayes said that for every freshman you use there will be a loss in you record. I’m not so sure he wasn’t right.”


Kyle in Baldwinsville asked about the schedule- start out with two Big Ten powers and then playing two weak teams in Wagner and Tulane. Coach: We used to start out with a couple of tough games when I was in the Mid-American conference. It gives you a chance to assess your team early and improve later. You could start out with cupcakes but it could give you a false sense of power. You have to manage it, (differing levels of completion) and maintain your focus”.


They talked about ways to increase attendance and concluded “Winning games always helps boost attendance. We have to fill the loud house. It’s a special place, loud even when it’s not full. When I coached at Michigan in the Big House, it wasn’t half as loud as the Carrier Dome. Two years ago we got in West Virginia’s head and last year Louisville couldn’t audible. The administration has done a great job of thinking outside the box- like putting that ribbon around the stands. We have to focus on the staff, the players and the recruiting. If I try to focus on something else, I can’t do someone else’s job. We have to get the team winning so people will want to come to the Dome and make it a blast.”


Alonzo called in wondering if we have adequate receiving talent. Coach Shafer thinks we do. “We have talented kids but lack experience. Jarrod West hasn ‘t been a #1 receiver. Ashton Broyld was playing in the backfield. Fleming, unfortunately, broke his foot. Estime has plenty of talent.”


John, a patron at Red Robin wondered why we had so many balls batted won. Coach: “When you have 22 guys trying to knock the hell out of each other it’s never about one guy. Sometimes it is the quarterback’s fault, if he stares down a guy. Sometimes the route doesn’t develop and the quarterback is waiting for the receivers- and the defensive lineman sees that and looks where he is looking.”


Frank in Liverpool asked what the differences were between coaching on the sidelines and coaching from the booth. Coach said he’d only been on the field once before this year-0 Jim Harbaugh asked him to coach one game from the field at Stanford. “I love that guy. I had a blast out there. But I couldn’t see what I used to see from the booth and to fix something you have to relay it through someone else. You don’t really know what happened until you see the film after the game. (That’s why coaches are always saying “I have to look at the film”). The good thing, is I don’t have to. I’ve got Chuck Bullough up there to do that.


He talked about Wagner. “They beat Colgate in the playoffs last year and were a couple of plays away from making the Final Four, (they lost to Eastern Washington 19-29- EW upset Oregon State two weeks ago when the Beavers were ranked #25). They are averaging 34 points a game Dominqiue Williams, (#25), is averaging 136 rushing yards a game and they are averaging 220 yards per game as a team. They have a Duke transfer who’s made some great catches, (Tyree Watkins, #3), and a Purdue transfer playing corner, (Jarrett Dieudonne, #1), so they have some good players. You have to weather the storm. When we played Maine a couple of years ago they pulled out every trick in the playbook. If the other team comes on or makes a surge, we have to step on them like a bug.”


i heard you ask your question last night about the 2 qbs...i was hoping you actually sounded like The Most Interesting Man In the World... sigh
 
Batted passes aren't always about one guy. But in this instance, when that one guy's release point is about 6 feet off the ground, they're about one guy.
 
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i heard you ask your question last night about the 2 qbs...i was hoping you actually sounded like The Most Interesting Man In the World... sigh

Haha. Funny thing is when i read his posts that is the voice I hear in my head. You just ruined it for me.


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When you form a perfect pocket and you have 4 guys rushing and are looking at the receiver, these things will happen more often especially when you throw a bit lower than other qb's.
 
Jonathan Goldsmith doesn't really sound like that, either.
 
Batted passes aren't always about one guy. But in this instance, when that one guy's release point is about 6 feet off the ground, they're about one guy.

That and staring down one receiver. When a QB doesn't move and he never visually surveys his receivers, just locks into one guy, probably his primary receiver, the DB's and the defensive linemen can pretty much guess where the pass is going to go.

Allen may have a good arm, but some of the other attributes of a good QB haven't been apparent.
 
If your goal is to get 4 or more yards on first down, what percentage of first downs should you be able to accomplish that? 100%? 90%? 80%?
 
If your goal is to get 4 or more yards on first down, what percentage of first downs should you be able to accomplish that? 100%? 90%? 80%?


My "winning plays" analysis is based on getting a third of the way to a first down, (or if goal to go, touchdown) on 1st down. Last year we were 196-219 on first downs, 136-119 on rushes and 60-90 passes. So I think our percentage in the Northwestern game was actually pretty good.
 

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