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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1559813, member: 2585"] Ha! I stand behind everything I said. You can't stand that I point out what Marrone actually was (the good, bad, mediocre). I get mocked for always thinking the best will happen for Syracuse - but you fail in evaluating the past without bias. It's not strawman. You've been arguing for months that the cupboards were not bare. We had mediocre BE talent at a few spots (check the all-ACC teams) and zilch at others. That parts on Marrone. The coaching them up, doing more with less, winning games with coaching - that failures on Shafer. Point fingers where the deserve to be pointed. Evaluate fairly and I'll take your more seriously. [/QUOTE]