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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 4650111, member: 474"] yeah.. And I am probably as techie as anyone on here in the day to day job and what I have to deal with. I am put on alot of projects because I tend to find the way things will break. For all the tech in the world its crazy how much of it is broken in ways that would scare people if they looked under the covers. Cell phone/Wifi are probably two of the worst managed services that people will use the most and it could all be so much better. things have gotten way too big too fast for most of these services to every catch up.. Just ask AMAZON.. who doesnt use AWS these days. its in pretty bad shape. [/QUOTE]