the curious case of ASU

[CusefanATL]

they started 12-0 with easy wins vs (n)Xavier and Kansas. also beat (n) Kansas State. Has since gone 8-11 with wins over USC UCLA and Utah and no one else.

now 20-11 (8-11 in a relatively weak conference)

 

[bpo57]

With its loss to Colorado today, ASU has now lost 11 out of 19 P-12 games and finishes in 9th place in what most everybody considers the weakest of the power conferences.

All of the bracketologists have ASU in the NCAAT based on their OOC performance - with impressive wins over Xavier, KU and to a lesser extent KSU. Jerry Palm has been rotating them back and forth between 8 and 9 despite loss after loss piling up against P-12 teams that will not be in the NCAAT. He had them 9 this morning, he'll probably move them back to 8 after this loss.

They're competing with other P-12 teams for a bubble spot as well other power con teams around the country. Somehow their dreadful performance within a weak conference that encompasses a 19 game sample is supposed to be completely mitigated by those two impressive wins. Just a few years ago they wouldn't even be in the conversation let alone firmly entrenched in the tourney. Nuts.

 

[SoBeCuse]

That should seal their fate...OUT!

 

[cuseinseattle]

They are toast

 

[pearl31]

eh, as much as I don't think they really deserve it, think they're in

 

[jncuse]

Their resume is very much like ours in 2016 (if you don't get fixated on timing or conference). They beat a bunch of elite teams, and lost to a bunch of mediocre teams.

Not saying they should be in or not. That type of resume could go either way.

 

[bpo57]

Their resume is very much like ours in 2016 (if you don't get fixated on timing or conference). They beat a bunch of elite teams, and lost to a bunch of mediocre teams.

Not saying they should be in or not. That type of resume could go either way.

Timing may not matter but the conference should matter. That's a weaker conference than what SU encountered in 2016. Bad losses should matter.

NOTE: I'm not blaming you for the process.

 

[Briancuse]

Their wins over kansas and Xavier will get them in.

 

[realorange]

One of the criteria the committee will look at is how a team finished the season.

 

[Chris02M]

play in game is my thought currently

 

[orangenirvana]

 

[bpo57]

play in game is my thought currently

Yeah at a minimum if they're going to get in they should have to play that play-in game.

 

[bpo57]

Their wins over kansas and Xavier will get them in.

Seems like ASU must have been thinking the same thing after they won those two games because they've been taking a siesta ever since.

 

[shandeezy7]

Timing may not matter but the conference should matter. That's a weaker conference than what SU encountered in 2016. Bad losses should matter.

NOTE: I'm not blaming you for the process.

Yeah, somewhat similar to SU that year, except like you said, ACC that year was a much, much stronger conference than the Pac-12 this year. 5 top 25 teams at the end of the year. 7 tournament teams (would have been 8 if Louisville was eligible). Plus, SU finished at .500 in the conference, not below .500.

 

[bpo57]

Yeah, somewhat similar to SU that year, except like you said, ACC that year was a much, much stronger conference than the Pac-12 this year. 5 top 25 teams at the end of the year. 7 tournament teams (would have been 8 if Louisville was eligible). Plus, SU finished at .500 in the conference, not below .500.

All good points.

 

[AZOrange]

Out. They’re terrible