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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 2750617, member: 474"] the game did turn on a dime though with that play. say we take the punt and go 3 and out we have a 50/50 we put them right back inside the 10. if you have a dominate D then like VT used to have them i am all for it.. but when stops are tough i take them and run. you can complain about 3 and outs and give them away when you get them. just like the PI call killed another drive we had stopped. thats the diffense in winning by 17 and being in a 1 score game [/QUOTE]