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Message: [QUOTE="EuclidBred, post: 3964405, member: 8136"] I'll start with Liberty. Top 25ish team. Ever been to Lynchburg? Barf! Western VA is not a hot bed of talent. You'll get to see them next week. If you need an ACC comp, try Wake Forest. The talent is hours away from them. They are the smallest D1 in P5 but somehow are able to recruit and be more successful. Wonder why? (answer: Coaching) I'd love to be top 40 in the country in recruiting. It's better than the 60s we've been in the last 4 years. Again, I am just tired of the excuses. It's a defeatist attitude. [/QUOTE]