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Coach Babers’s Show will be at the new Marriott Syracuse, (the former Hotel Syracuse). The first show will be Wednesday night at 7PM because the game is Friday, (the show will normally be two days before the next game). They will be in Shaughnessy’s Irish Pub, which can be accessed from the street.
This article contains the schedule:
New Home for AmeriCU Dino Babers Show
You can also listen to the show live each week on the Syracuse IMG Sports Network and Cuse.com. Wednesday's show will be on 99.1 FM and 97.7 FM, as well. The show will regularly air on 99.5FM (Syracuse) 99.1 FM (Utica) and 1200 AM.”
You can also get it on: Listen to The Jim Bohannon Show on WGVA on TuneIn
There hasn’t been any change in the phone numbers, which last year were 315-424-8599 (local) or 1-888-746-2873. You can call to ask questions or submit them via Twitter at: #AskDino hashtag on Twitter
Or through Cuse.com, (the SU Athletic website):
Syracuse University Athletics
You can (or could last year, anyway), listen to a podcast of the show, probably the next day, at: Search results for babers | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn
I’ve been asked to continue doing the summaries, even by people who listen to the podcasts. I may focus on the major points, rather than trying to record everything.
My Question(s)
“Congratulations, coach on a historically great win. Younger fans now have a game they can remember that ranked with the Nebraska game, the Penn State game, the West Virginia game, the Florida game, etc. This compares most to the Nebraska game. In 1983 we’d traveled to Lincoln and lost 7-63, just as we lost 0-54 at Clemson last year. Then they came here and we took it to them from the kickoff and sustained the effort for four quarters, making the plays to win the game at the end. It was the same thing against the Tigers Saturday. In 1984 we then had a three game road trip against Florida, West Virginia and Penn State and we lost all three decisively. The impact of the Nebraska game seemed to dissipate and our real breakthrough didn’t come for another three years. Now we have to go on the road to face Miami and Florida State. What can be done to keep the ball from rolling back down the hill this time?”
The Show
(I sometimes re-arrange the comments so that statements made on the same subject are reported together, even if they came at different points of the show.)
(Brian Higgins stood in for Matt Park.)
Brian asked the Coach to compare this to a normal week. HCDB: “There’s bene extra media attention. It’s been a tiring schedule but I can get used to it. It’s provided a lot of national exposure or our school , our program and Upperstate New York.” (Nobody has the heart to tell the coach that it’s “Upstate New York”.) The seniors have been through three head football coaches. Eric Dungey told me at the beginning of this year that he was excited, for the first time in his life to be able to play in the same offensive system for two years in a row. I suggested he meant “since high school”. He told me, no – that includes high school. The poor kid have played his entire football career under a different system each year. I decided not to make any big changes this year. We need to make him comfortable with what we are doing before we move on to the next era.” (Meaning that we are just seeing part of the Babers offense at this point.)
Coach revealed this: “In 2016 our APR score would have gotten us in a bowl game if we’d bene able to get to 5-7, so we came up one win short. “ APR = Academic progress rate. I don’t know what the score is this year or how it will compare to other 5-7 teams but I wonder if the same will be true this season, if we should wind up with that record. Let’ win 6-7 games so we won’t have to find out.
The Miami game “could have Wake Forest type weather…A slight rain or wind is not a big deal- it could even help us. But a heavy rain or win would be a big problem.” Brian mentioned that both the Boston College and Wake Forest games last year were impacted by weather and that that experience might be valuable to the team. Coach said “BC was just a football game. Wake was something different.” Brian said he’d looked at the weather report for Saturday and it was “gross all day long.”
DB: “We’ll get their full concentrated blast this week. They are honoring Michael Irvin and his teammates at halftime.” Brian noted that we’ll get a full blast of Michael Irvin, too: Michael Junior – their back-up tight end.
I was having trouble getting through to the show: at both numbers I got 10 rings, then silence. I kept trying but in the meantime Bob in Syracuse and our old pal Liam from Pompey were able to get through.
Bob said the game was “a blessing for the city and town.” He noted that the coach had both a daughter named Paris and a player named Parris. He suggested they ought to get a ticket and fly to Paris. Match-making aside, Bob had noticed that we were doing a lot of switching of players from one side of the field to the other. Dino said that a good defense stops the other team’s tendencies. The role of the offense is to establish those tendencies and then break those tendencies.
Liam said that we “shocked the world when nobody thought we had a chance” and that he hopes we will do the same thing in Miami this week. “What did you learn from the Clemson game and how are you preparing for the Miami game?” Coach: “Miami is undefeated. The game will be played on a natural surface in the rain. The rain will make the humidity worse than usual. We will have to communicate by signals rather than audio due to the noise of the crowd- the same problem our opponents have had in the Dome. . It was to our advantage then, to theirs now.”
I finally got through to ask my question: Can we keep the success going, unlike in 1984? Coach: “I wish I knew the answer. We are 4-3 and have the most difficult schedule in college football. We’ve bene fighting heavyweights. With our starting defensive ends out we had a chance to win with five minutes left at both LSU and NC State and we ran out the clock against Clemson. But we’ve bene losing players with every game. We don’t have the depth we need at all positons. Last year we lost those last four games because we were not physically capable of replaying the players we lost. We’ve got a little bit more depth in some positons this year. But we’ve played a heavy price. We need time to heal and I’m looking forward to the week we get off after this game.”
One impact of the big win: “Other schools have stopped talking to our 2018 recruits – they know, after that game that they are coming here. But the greatest impact will be on the high school juniors- the class of 2019.”
They went over the current injury list. Black is still doubtful, Coleman questionable. Cordy is still out. Bradshaw is out. Martin “played with a club” last week. Brian noted that ½ of the original starting secondary is out. Higgins suggested that Alton Robinson might be better than the guys he replaced. Coach: “I’m not going to say that.” He praised Bradshaw for the way he went out. If he hadn’t taken on the full force of that kick returner, the guy had a chance to go all the way. “he sacrificed for the family. If you are going to get hurt, do it on a play like that.”
“You look for their Achilles heel. They had a safety we thought we could complete some passes on. We did so and they got tired of it. They sent a corner blitz, which put this guy one on-one with Ish, (Steve Ismael) and we scored a TD on that play. People ask “why don’t you do that all the time?” If it was that easy, we would. That’s what I like- the chess game.”
About that post-game celebration: “I just feed off the young men’s eyes and look into their souls. They know how I feel about them and they (paused)…know how they feel about me. There are so many average people in the world but athletes cannot be satisfied to be average. I want to give them moments like this. They are deposits in their hearts and souls, something to remember when I’m gone.”
The coach noted someone in Shaughnessy’s yawning. That set him off. “We don’t’ allow yawning. It shows a lack of commitment. You have to do push- ups for yawning.”
Does the coach have a 24 hour rule for reacting to the results of games. “24 hour rules are for us old people. We gave then three days off to ride the wave. I could be wrong but that’s what we did.” Higgins said “That’s what the next game is for: to see if you were wrong.”
John in Baltimore had heard the Jim Rome interview and noted that Bob Spoo had coached at Eastern Illinois for 25 years. “Can we get 25 years out of you?”. Coach told us about Spoo. He’d played for Purdue and was a quarterback coach there. He coached Jeff George and two All-Americans before that. (I think that would be Mark Herrmann and Jim Everett). He got tired of big-time football, (he’s coached a Chicago high school for some years), and got the head job at Eastern Illinois, where he gave me my first coaching job in 1987. A quarter century later I replaced him there when I first became a head coach. I always feel that each job will be my last one. When I left EIU I got taken. I had to sell my house for $45,000. When I left Bowling Green, I had to sell for $35,000. So if I ever leave Syracuse, you’re going to have to buy my house!“ John said that he couldn’t afford it. (I guess that’s an answer of sorts.)
Bob Spoo’s record: Bob Spoo - Wikipedia
Babers talked about Mark Richt: “Georgia is a school you want to retire from, not be fired from. He’s done an amazing job at Miami, (he went here when Dino came here). “Like me he doesn’t have all his own players in there yet. His team is disciplined, well-schooled and well coached. “
They introduced co-offensive coordinator Sean Lewis. Dino: He thinks like I do. We’re like a married couple that speaks in half sentences because each knows what the other is thinking. He’s also in toon with what’s going on in the world. He tells me when stuff is cool.”
Sean coaches from the field, not the press box. He likes to look his quarterbacks in the eye and get their comfort level. “I want to create some trust so we all speak the same language. He said that Dungey’s work ethic was ”second to none”.
He said the rush of the field after the Clemson game was “a little frightening- fans were trying to grab my ear phone, my hat, etc. ”. He was trying to get to Eric Dungey but decided that was impossible, (Higgins was trying to do the same and reached the same conclusion).
“We are always going to try to go fast but paint a little bit different picture each year so we can really get going.”
This article contains the schedule:
New Home for AmeriCU Dino Babers Show
You can also listen to the show live each week on the Syracuse IMG Sports Network and Cuse.com. Wednesday's show will be on 99.1 FM and 97.7 FM, as well. The show will regularly air on 99.5FM (Syracuse) 99.1 FM (Utica) and 1200 AM.”
You can also get it on: Listen to The Jim Bohannon Show on WGVA on TuneIn
There hasn’t been any change in the phone numbers, which last year were 315-424-8599 (local) or 1-888-746-2873. You can call to ask questions or submit them via Twitter at: #AskDino hashtag on Twitter
Or through Cuse.com, (the SU Athletic website):
Syracuse University Athletics
You can (or could last year, anyway), listen to a podcast of the show, probably the next day, at: Search results for babers | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn
I’ve been asked to continue doing the summaries, even by people who listen to the podcasts. I may focus on the major points, rather than trying to record everything.
My Question(s)
“Congratulations, coach on a historically great win. Younger fans now have a game they can remember that ranked with the Nebraska game, the Penn State game, the West Virginia game, the Florida game, etc. This compares most to the Nebraska game. In 1983 we’d traveled to Lincoln and lost 7-63, just as we lost 0-54 at Clemson last year. Then they came here and we took it to them from the kickoff and sustained the effort for four quarters, making the plays to win the game at the end. It was the same thing against the Tigers Saturday. In 1984 we then had a three game road trip against Florida, West Virginia and Penn State and we lost all three decisively. The impact of the Nebraska game seemed to dissipate and our real breakthrough didn’t come for another three years. Now we have to go on the road to face Miami and Florida State. What can be done to keep the ball from rolling back down the hill this time?”
The Show
(I sometimes re-arrange the comments so that statements made on the same subject are reported together, even if they came at different points of the show.)
(Brian Higgins stood in for Matt Park.)
Brian asked the Coach to compare this to a normal week. HCDB: “There’s bene extra media attention. It’s been a tiring schedule but I can get used to it. It’s provided a lot of national exposure or our school , our program and Upperstate New York.” (Nobody has the heart to tell the coach that it’s “Upstate New York”.) The seniors have been through three head football coaches. Eric Dungey told me at the beginning of this year that he was excited, for the first time in his life to be able to play in the same offensive system for two years in a row. I suggested he meant “since high school”. He told me, no – that includes high school. The poor kid have played his entire football career under a different system each year. I decided not to make any big changes this year. We need to make him comfortable with what we are doing before we move on to the next era.” (Meaning that we are just seeing part of the Babers offense at this point.)
Coach revealed this: “In 2016 our APR score would have gotten us in a bowl game if we’d bene able to get to 5-7, so we came up one win short. “ APR = Academic progress rate. I don’t know what the score is this year or how it will compare to other 5-7 teams but I wonder if the same will be true this season, if we should wind up with that record. Let’ win 6-7 games so we won’t have to find out.
The Miami game “could have Wake Forest type weather…A slight rain or wind is not a big deal- it could even help us. But a heavy rain or win would be a big problem.” Brian mentioned that both the Boston College and Wake Forest games last year were impacted by weather and that that experience might be valuable to the team. Coach said “BC was just a football game. Wake was something different.” Brian said he’d looked at the weather report for Saturday and it was “gross all day long.”
DB: “We’ll get their full concentrated blast this week. They are honoring Michael Irvin and his teammates at halftime.” Brian noted that we’ll get a full blast of Michael Irvin, too: Michael Junior – their back-up tight end.
I was having trouble getting through to the show: at both numbers I got 10 rings, then silence. I kept trying but in the meantime Bob in Syracuse and our old pal Liam from Pompey were able to get through.
Bob said the game was “a blessing for the city and town.” He noted that the coach had both a daughter named Paris and a player named Parris. He suggested they ought to get a ticket and fly to Paris. Match-making aside, Bob had noticed that we were doing a lot of switching of players from one side of the field to the other. Dino said that a good defense stops the other team’s tendencies. The role of the offense is to establish those tendencies and then break those tendencies.
Liam said that we “shocked the world when nobody thought we had a chance” and that he hopes we will do the same thing in Miami this week. “What did you learn from the Clemson game and how are you preparing for the Miami game?” Coach: “Miami is undefeated. The game will be played on a natural surface in the rain. The rain will make the humidity worse than usual. We will have to communicate by signals rather than audio due to the noise of the crowd- the same problem our opponents have had in the Dome. . It was to our advantage then, to theirs now.”
I finally got through to ask my question: Can we keep the success going, unlike in 1984? Coach: “I wish I knew the answer. We are 4-3 and have the most difficult schedule in college football. We’ve bene fighting heavyweights. With our starting defensive ends out we had a chance to win with five minutes left at both LSU and NC State and we ran out the clock against Clemson. But we’ve bene losing players with every game. We don’t have the depth we need at all positons. Last year we lost those last four games because we were not physically capable of replaying the players we lost. We’ve got a little bit more depth in some positons this year. But we’ve played a heavy price. We need time to heal and I’m looking forward to the week we get off after this game.”
One impact of the big win: “Other schools have stopped talking to our 2018 recruits – they know, after that game that they are coming here. But the greatest impact will be on the high school juniors- the class of 2019.”
They went over the current injury list. Black is still doubtful, Coleman questionable. Cordy is still out. Bradshaw is out. Martin “played with a club” last week. Brian noted that ½ of the original starting secondary is out. Higgins suggested that Alton Robinson might be better than the guys he replaced. Coach: “I’m not going to say that.” He praised Bradshaw for the way he went out. If he hadn’t taken on the full force of that kick returner, the guy had a chance to go all the way. “he sacrificed for the family. If you are going to get hurt, do it on a play like that.”
“You look for their Achilles heel. They had a safety we thought we could complete some passes on. We did so and they got tired of it. They sent a corner blitz, which put this guy one on-one with Ish, (Steve Ismael) and we scored a TD on that play. People ask “why don’t you do that all the time?” If it was that easy, we would. That’s what I like- the chess game.”
About that post-game celebration: “I just feed off the young men’s eyes and look into their souls. They know how I feel about them and they (paused)…know how they feel about me. There are so many average people in the world but athletes cannot be satisfied to be average. I want to give them moments like this. They are deposits in their hearts and souls, something to remember when I’m gone.”
The coach noted someone in Shaughnessy’s yawning. That set him off. “We don’t’ allow yawning. It shows a lack of commitment. You have to do push- ups for yawning.”
Does the coach have a 24 hour rule for reacting to the results of games. “24 hour rules are for us old people. We gave then three days off to ride the wave. I could be wrong but that’s what we did.” Higgins said “That’s what the next game is for: to see if you were wrong.”
John in Baltimore had heard the Jim Rome interview and noted that Bob Spoo had coached at Eastern Illinois for 25 years. “Can we get 25 years out of you?”. Coach told us about Spoo. He’d played for Purdue and was a quarterback coach there. He coached Jeff George and two All-Americans before that. (I think that would be Mark Herrmann and Jim Everett). He got tired of big-time football, (he’s coached a Chicago high school for some years), and got the head job at Eastern Illinois, where he gave me my first coaching job in 1987. A quarter century later I replaced him there when I first became a head coach. I always feel that each job will be my last one. When I left EIU I got taken. I had to sell my house for $45,000. When I left Bowling Green, I had to sell for $35,000. So if I ever leave Syracuse, you’re going to have to buy my house!“ John said that he couldn’t afford it. (I guess that’s an answer of sorts.)
Bob Spoo’s record: Bob Spoo - Wikipedia
Babers talked about Mark Richt: “Georgia is a school you want to retire from, not be fired from. He’s done an amazing job at Miami, (he went here when Dino came here). “Like me he doesn’t have all his own players in there yet. His team is disciplined, well-schooled and well coached. “
They introduced co-offensive coordinator Sean Lewis. Dino: He thinks like I do. We’re like a married couple that speaks in half sentences because each knows what the other is thinking. He’s also in toon with what’s going on in the world. He tells me when stuff is cool.”
Sean coaches from the field, not the press box. He likes to look his quarterbacks in the eye and get their comfort level. “I want to create some trust so we all speak the same language. He said that Dungey’s work ethic was ”second to none”.
He said the rush of the field after the Clemson game was “a little frightening- fans were trying to grab my ear phone, my hat, etc. ”. He was trying to get to Eric Dungey but decided that was impossible, (Higgins was trying to do the same and reached the same conclusion).
“We are always going to try to go fast but paint a little bit different picture each year so we can really get going.”
