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Message: [QUOTE="OCESIP, post: 5603254, member: 8702"] I would have to disagree from the standpoint of name recognition and image, especially for people outside the geographic area. Every college or university wants a fundamentally high level academic program. That priority is very important, but it doesn't translate to identity and name recognition. I'm part-time in SC, and I can tell you Clemson has benefited significantly from a successful product on the football field. I'm guessing SU did as well at the height of it's Big East basketball success. [/QUOTE]