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Message: [QUOTE="Fjoinkay, post: 188012, member: 604"] I think HCDM has done a very good job with the program while making some frustrating mistakes along the way. It's his first job as HC, and he's growing into the position. If what was posted earlier about feedback from players and asking coach to chill out is true...the most important insight for me is that the players like him. Yep, they like him and they want to play for him enough that they are willing to give candid feedback. If they didn't like him and they disliked his grinding methods we'd see mass defections. Nick Saban wasn't the Nick Saban we know now his first few years at Michigan State. I'm not saying HCDM will go on to that kind of success because I think that would require him going to a place like Alabama. But I do believe he has the potential to become a top-notch college coach with a program at SU that is very competitive in the ACC and nationally. [/QUOTE]