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Message: [QUOTE="Orangetradition44, post: 137619, member: 161"] I agree with all that. I wasn't getting carried away at all... over the last almost 10 years, they have the better program. It's as simple as that. I'm not saying they are in a whole other league or some higher level than SU, just that for this decade, they are the better program. And people on this board can deride them and dismiss them and their coach as much as they want, but their coach is more successful that our last two coaches and it's not even close. It just makes us look bad, in my opinion. Like arguing with an idiot. Eventually, people can't tell who the more irrelevant program is. [/QUOTE]