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The Fab Elbow Play - Did we get screwed?
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[QUOTE="reedny, post: 144855, member: 1423"] I thought the officiating in this game was pi**-poor. Marquette came in with a brawl strategy and (on many possessions) got away with murder. Meanwhile, the Cuse' was playing defense on egg shells and getting whistled for touch fouls. But I have to say that on the sequence of this thread, the rule is the problem not the officials. Here's an explanation of the rule: [url]http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News/2011/May/Mens+basketball+rules+committee+recommends+restricted+area+arc[/url] Note "other recommendations" section on retroactivity. In the Marquette game, the sequence was actually worse than the thread stated: - Melo gets his 4th foul "retroactively" (i.e., the ref's stop play, go back and watch television to make the call ... not a quality process, to say the least); - Crowder gets two points; - Marquette gets two free throws; AND [COLOR=#ff0000]- Marquette gets the freaking ball (an extra possession/oportunity to go on offense and score).[/COLOR] Here are the problems with the rule: 1- If the ref's don't call a timely foul, allowing them (upon either coach's request) to [U]go back and reconstruct the game[/U] and call one from a television monitor, leads to ridiculous situations. The Marquette game was one example. Another was in the Tulane game: the German kid claimed he was flagranted, so the refs had to stand and argue with him and his coach, look at the monitors ... and delay the game for several minutes while the stared at the television screens. Ultimately, they refused to make a call (he flopped), and this was a credit to the officials. But the process takes too long and inserts the coaches pretty far into the officiating process. 2- If the ref's are going to play revisionist historians (go back and call a foul retroactively), how long should the officials have to make the call? If they take more than a few seconds (as they did here), why should any points scored after the foul count, unless the flagrant occured in the act of shooting? Most of these plays occur on the defensive boards. If you go back and call a flagrant foul AND let any post-foul basket count (it could be a three pointer), then you're potentially penalizing the defending team a 3pter, plus 2 foul shots, plus the ball -- this could be anywhere between a 5-8 point swing!! Maybe on a Flagrant 2, this could be justified (especially if they expanded the rule to cover situations like the St Bonnies game 2 years ago when Nicholson punched Andy Rautins in the groin). But on a flagrant 1 (unintentional), I just don't see the justification for the delay or all the penalties. 3- We're all familiar with monitor reviews in sports. But one of the most enjoyable things about college BB is the speed of the game. When you let the officials stop play for 3-5 minutes while they stand around the monitor, with their butts facing the camera and the opposing coach (Buzzie) hounding them, it dimishes the game experience. It also allows the ref's to back-fill their failure to make a call in a timely fashion. If one player punches another in the face ... ok, take the time. But in virtually every other situation.. I don't think it's worth it; and if it's done, any points scored after the foul should NOT count. [/QUOTE]
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