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Message: [QUOTE="BlackSquirrels, post: 2108500, member: 742"] I don't think it's top end talent. SU has had enough hits. I think the problem is the misses have been way, way off. Here are the classes starting with 2013: 2013: Ennis, Roberson, Johnson, Patterson, Obokoh 2014: McCullough, Joseph 2015: Richardson, Lydon, Diagne, Howard 2016: Battle, Thompson, Moyer Ennis, Richards and Lydon were all hits. Battle and Thompson may outperform their rankings and become hits. McCullough is tough to classify but he obviously had a lot of talent that he didn't show at SU. Then it gets ugly. Roberson was a contributor but didn't develop as into the player we hoped. Johnson, Patterson, Obokoh and Joseph were encouraged to transfer. Howard might be as well. Diagne never made it to campus. So we have 5, and possibly 6, guys who never contributed to a winning team. [/QUOTE]