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Message: [QUOTE="JDubbin, post: 2425582, member: 2453"] [USER=796]SoBeCuse[/USER] can you please read what I've been saying? I agree he's outproducing Frank and is a better player, Trae as a freshman is one of the best player's in the country, agreed? MY POINT is that when we look at turnovers, Frank get's ridiculed hard for something that's not some crazy anomaly. Can he tighten handle some? Sure. Are some of his turnovers lazy instead of attacking-the-basket-aggressive-in-nature types? Sure. This dude jgeorge322 came at me saying I used one game to make a point, which I clearly didn't. So I responded to him... then you took my response to him like a personal attack on you and Trae. It wasn't. I know you're trying to use scenario's which we could never use in real life since they play different teams, but over an entire season Trae and Frank's TO numbers are minimally different, statistically speaking. [/QUOTE]