The Lambert Trophy

[CuyahogaCuse]

We haven’t won it since 1992.

Only Penn State and Virginia Tech are in front of us in the polls.

Pitt and Cuse have won it six times. Army has won it seven times. The Nittany Lions are out of reach at 31 times.

It’s time to bring the Lambert Trophy back to Central New York. I believe this is an attainable goal. If achieved, no school will have won it more often than Syracuse other than Penn State.

One week at a time, but it will be fun to see this play out over the next two months.

 

[Ish88888]

We haven’t won it since 1992.

Only Penn State and Virginia Tech are in front of us in the polls.

Pitt and Cuse have won it six times. Army has won it seven times. The Nittany Lions are out of reach at 31 times.

It’s time to bring the Lambert Trophy back to Central New York. I believe this is an attainable goal. If achieved, no school will have won it more often than Syracuse other than Penn State.

One week at a time, but it will be fun to see this play out over the next two months.

Um, what is the Lambert trophy?

 

[CuyahogaCuse]

Um, what is the Lambert trophy?

Pretty big deal in Eastern football, Ish. It’s been awarded for Eastern football supremacy since 1936.

Here’s the Wikipedia entry.

 

[donniesyracuse]

I had no idea that they still awarded it. I remember the paper used to print the standings.

 

[ottodaorange]

I thought it was obsolete, but I remember that it was almost always between Syracuse, Penn St., Pitt, Army, Navy, and BC.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

We have a great shot at it. Need 9+ Ws. IMO Penn State is more likely to have 7 Ws than 10 Ws. Overrated team and hard schedule. I think it is WV’s to lose.

 

[Townie72]

Pretty big deal in Eastern football, Ish. It’s been awarded for Eastern football supremacy since 1936.

Here’s the Wikipedia entry.

It had a lot more value and visibility when the East was all independents. It became the symbol of the unofficial championship of the "Eastern Indies". To qualify, I think, you have to play a majority of your games against oher Eastern schools. (I don't see how WVU or PSU would even qualify against that criteria.)

Once PSU went to the Big Ten, the trophy lost a lot of lustre and relevance because it meant the teams weren't all playing one another like they had previously.

What is it? It's a relic of the past. It would be very nice for SU to win it, especially for the older people among the SU fan base. But no one outside of us would even notice that particular award. To win it, SU would have to have a truly great season and the old Lambert Trophy would just be icing on the cake of National rankings, major bowl invitations and positive press coverage.

What's the Lambert Trophy? It used to be Floyd Little and Larry Czonka versus Lydell Mitchell and Franco Harris in Archbold many. many years ago.

 

[CuyahogaCuse]

I think it is WV’s to lose.

Completely forgot about West Virginia. Don’t think of them being in the east anymore. How sad is that?

 

[All4SU]

The Lambert Trophy lost some credibility to me when they were recognizing Miami, Cincinnati, Louisville etc. The fact that the former East Indies were playing in a conference with these teams shouldn’t have qualified them to win a trophy originally created to recognize the top eastern school.

 

[nzm136]

The Lambert Trophy is awarded to the best team that plays enough games in the northeast. That’s how PSU is able to win it, despite not playing a lot of eastern teams anymore. It’s also how some non-eastern teams (with eastern-heavy schedules) were/are able to win it, despite not being eastern.

 

[All4SU]

PSU is, and will always be, an Eastern team. One of the original Eastern Independents. That doesn’t change when they play in the B1G. Nor does SU playing in the ACC (or BC or Pitt, for that matter) change our status. These are the original Rastern rivals. That’s what the trophy was for. I understand the loophole that Miami or Lville or USF played a majority of their game against the Eastern Indies, but the committee should never have let that rule be interpreted to allow that. Just my .02.

 

[Hoo's That]

I thought it was obsolete, but I remember that it was almost always between Syracuse, Penn St., Pitt, Army, Navy, and BC.

I'm shocked to learn that Rutgers wasn't always in the running to win it as well.

 

[Townie72]

I'm shocked to learn that Rutgers wasn't always in the running to win it as well.

For almost all of their football history, Rutgers competed for the Lambert Cup, which is the junior varsity version of the Lambert Trophy. It's awarded to the smaller Eastern schools and I seem to remember it was usually won by an Ivy league school or Holy Cross.

 

[orangecuse]

PSU is, and will always be, an Eastern team. One of the original Eastern Independents. That doesn’t change when they play in the B1G. Nor does SU playing in the ACC (or BC or Pitt, for that matter) change our status. These are the original Rastern rivals. That’s what the trophy was for. I understand the loophole that Miami or Lville or USF played a majority of their game against the Eastern Indies, but the committee should never have let that rule be interpreted to allow that. Just my .02.

Well, according to maps I've seen, UVA, NCST, UNC, Wake, DU, CU, UM, FSU, etc., all our physically located on the Eastern seaboard, so they are Eastern schools.

 

[All4SU]

 

[Townie72]

Well, according to maps I've seen, UVA, NCST, UNC, Wake, DU, CU, UM, FSU, etc., all our physically located on the Eastern seaboard, so they are Eastern schools.

Forget the map. When the term "Major Eastern Independents" was used or "Eastern Indies" it meant Northeastern schools.

So Florida schools, while technically Eastern schools were not considered.

Pretty much forever there was the additional qualifier that included "schools that played a majority of their games against "Eastern schools". But there was no such thing for most of the period until Miami started to play so many games against the Northeastern schools.

 

[dollarbill44]

It has ostensibly been replaced in relevance by the Civil Conflict trophy.:rolling: