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[QUOTE="General Joe, post: 3396811, member: 6967"]
Thanks for your thoughts.  You make two statements I 100% agree with and its interesting. You say "we all hope recruiting can improve" and you also say "and your (my) stance that recruiting needs to improve is shared by most here".  The point of my post was in reply to those on here that continually say "our recruiting is great, trust the coaches on these kids with 1 or no other P5 offers, our recruiting DOES NOT need to improve" etc etc etc. Since you and I are in agreement that our recruiting needs to improve, lets just talk about why its been so bad. I welcome your thoughts and or observations.

You also mentioned facts or lack of. Every year many groups, magazines, recruiting services, ESPN etc etc etc rank college football recruiting classes. So that we have a starting point for conversation  can we use these as a basis?  What metric would you use to measure incoming recruiting classes vs each other?

Finally you mentioned the weather. Can we agree that Syracuse DOESN'T play in bad weather but instead plays in one of the most recognizable indoor stadiums in all of college Football. The weather is bad in Boston, WV, Pitt, Mich, State of Washington, Illinois, Minnesota etc etc who all play football outside?
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