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Message: [QUOTE="General Joe, post: 3425887, member: 6967"] I got that but it points to the futility of his argument as those guys are demonstrably better than what we had. The bigger point is there were NY products. Just like Isaiah Wilson who was a 1st rd T the other day. But since he brought up Samuels lets look at OH St. They have TE Ruckert who is #1 on depth chart and the 4star OT Matt Jones who would've easily started for us day 1 looking at our line play smh. Also the starting K for them last year was the kid Haubell from Buffalo. So OH ST seems to like our top end talent. Just wished we kept more of it at home. [/QUOTE]