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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 3509354, member: 837"] Agreed. My only thing is that if you're primarily recruiting kids outside the top 250-300 kids and they often come from states other than the southeast or california/texas, etc. then the actual information you get from these sites is dubious (good or bad). And for our program in particular a lot of our 4-star kids have been somewhat successful but not necessarily our best players (chandler or arthur jones, shamarko, dungey, etc. I think even Freeney was a 3-star kid). So putting a lot of stock into this recruiting ranking stuff is fun and we all love 4-/5-stars with a ton of offers -- if we get a bunch of those kids we should rightly get excited because why not? But, to your point, even then, the strength and conditioning, systems we run, coaches we employ, off-field behavior, etc., are more important. My personal favorite recruits are camp offers and early commits. Tend to feel like you are generally leaning on the staff evaluation at that point and typically those guys tend to know what they're looking for. You're never going to bat 1.000 on those guys but I try to not criticize them -- even in the instance of a kid like Long, who committed early but doesn't look real impressive to me personally. I'll defer to coaches on kids like this and figure maybe they can either work with him on technique and explosiveness off the line and in and out of breaks, then crush the kid himself. But at the end of the day, I just think people who drive themselves nuts on recruiting rankings, particular class rankings, are going to do nothing but drive themselves crazy until such time that we somehow see a dramatic rise in the relevance of our program. [/QUOTE]

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