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Message: [QUOTE="Flacusian, post: 1679261, member: 264"] I get your point but Grant leaving wasn't considered a sure thing from the get go. Many thought we would've gotten one more year from him. And as for Ennis, sure he would have been gone but who is to say how Joseph might have turned out had he not been thrown into a situation he clearly wasn't ready for and arguably shattered his confidence. That's not to say that it wouldn't have been the same outcome in the end but it certainly poses the thought that it may have worked out differently for him had he had the opportunity to be Ennis's understudy. Also, the NCAA penalties certainly played a role in who left and who we were able to get to come in. My overall point is that there was a lot of things stacked against the program going into the season. [/QUOTE]