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Message: [QUOTE="pfister1, post: 1781299, member: 285"] This discussion is kind of off base. The point was made that Ma Thompson (and other recruits or parents of recruits) might have a negative impression of SU because of the recent controversies that have occurred and that impression might impact our ability to successfully recruit those folks. The fact that SU fans don't have that negative impression, or believe that they have more/more accurate information that makes the other folks' negative impressions questionable is really moot. Once a person assumes a negative impression, you can't simply correct/change that impression because you tell a good story. If Ma Thompson doesn't trust JB or doesn't believe he is a good person, JB, Hop, Red and GMac can talk to her all day long and tell her anything they think may counter that impression, but it doesn't mean that she is going to trust what they are telling her or buy into it. That's why people say first impressions are so important, because initial impressions are very difficult to overcome...regardless of whether they are based on accurate information or not. They color every single fact presented after the impression is formed. You can easily see how a recruit or a recruit's family could have a negative impression of JB and SU (and it can't all be laid at the feet of the NCAA) based on much of this stuff: - Bernie Fine scandal (doesn't matter how much truth there was to it - it looked really ugly for anyone who didn't have the patience to try to actually follow the entire thing) - Fab Melo B.S. (both losing him in the middle of our tourney run and revelations that came out with the NCAA report - I realize these are the same incidents - but they run through the press at two distinct times and can seem like two unrelated incidents to the casual observer) - Marijuana / Drug Testing revelations and failure to discipline players testing positive - NCAA Self Imposed Tournament Ban 2015 (Feburary ish 2015) - NCAA Infractions 4 year scholarship impact (March 2015) - NCAA Infractions appeal and result (Fall 2015) - JB - 9 game suspension (December 2015) - "Running Off" players (Johnson, Patterson, Joseph) - JB "negative" comments about guys leaving early (Ennis/Grant/McCullough/Richardson). - Is JB retiring or isn't he, who will coach me if I come??? Bottom line is you can argue all day long that these things are no worse than what goes on elsewhere, they aren't really based in fact, etc., etc., etc. but the truth is that people outside of the Orange family aren't as likely to shrug them off as we are. [/QUOTE]

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