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Message: [QUOTE="JeremyCuse, post: 5616226, member: 43"] Sorry but I have to disagree with almost everything you just noted. Your points would make more sense if it was 2006 vs 2026. School/conference make up ie bball and academic schools vs football schools is now essentially meaningless. Every D1 fball schools goal (save for service academies) is to be in the best conference possible with the most payout, full stop. Without a high end conference affiliation it's going to be almost impossible for most schools to have the 20.5 mill a year to pay NIL for players. Syracuse certainly would be beyond screwed. B10 and SEC adding schools eventually will strictly be from the ACC, they could have added anyone they wanted from the B12 previously, there's a reason they didn't. The buyout will be meaningless once core teams leave the entire league will implode, FSU or CLemson leaving isn't the issue its UVA and UNC, once they bolt the conference itself is unsustainable. [I]I rather make $10M a year and play in a conference with like minded schools where we can win championships. It doesn't make us any less competitive because 11 out of our 12 games are against teams making the SAME amount of money or less. The SEC teams can be making $250M a year and it will have ZERO impact on our competitiveness. - [/I][B]Syracuse athletics can't survive on 10 million a year, what championships are we going win, the patriot league? The lack of money coming in will make the big 3 and the olympic sports totally uncompetitive. In what world can we compete with facilities, NIL, and salaries with a Big East conference payout vs the ACC/B12 much less B10 or the SEC. [/B] [I] Does SU athletics exist to make as much money as possible or to win games? People will not support a B12 program to see a 5-7 record every year with no chance at the CCG. [/I][B]- Whose coming to the Dome to watch SU play Uconn, Wake, UMass and BC with essentially ad D1-AA roster? The JMU blueprint is not something can be emulated and their ability to make the playoff is essentially a loophole the B10 and Sec are going to close because those teams getting in cost their conference brethren and the non power schools have been getting dusted in the 1st round each year. [/B] [I] Even in the B1G we have a better chance at a 7-5 record than in the B12. The bottom 75% of the B12 is much better than the bottom 75% of the B1G. And at least we have name programs coming to the Dome to pique interest even if we stink. It is major league football so people will still buy in. - [B]So it's a better to have name programs come in but you'd rather SU try some Indy version of the nightmare Uconn has or stay in a cobbled together conference with Wake, BC, UConn vs Playing BYU, Texas Tech, WVU, Houston etc. [/B] If/when the ACC loses a bunch of teams, Stanford and Cal will join the PAC and not the B12 for the same reasons that we should stay behind in a new ACC made up of the top Eastern left behinds. In terms of money is the PAC/ACC worse than the B12? Sure. But in terms of competitiveness it is better to be in the PAC/ACC.[B] - They will do everything they can to join the B12 for the same reason they bolted the PAC as soon as they got an ACC lifeline, there's no fn $$$ in the new PAC. Competitiveness is meaningless if there's no money. UConn just won 9 games but did it mostly against the sisters of the poor and lost their coach to Colorado State. Not Colorado not UCLA but Colorado State. Why, they don't have any $$$ coming in from a conference. UConn would join the ACC tomorrow even if meant they had to lose every fball game for the next 4 years, why, because of 45 million payout versus 7 or whatever the hell the BE is paying. [/B] With all those exit fees and NCAAT credits, I think SU/BC/Pitt/Wake and whomever else is left are certainly better off in an ACC 5.0 than the B12. [/I][B] - Again they are not, that's a short term gain for a long term athletic death sentence. Syracuse the athletic dept would have to jettison multiple sports and would essentially become UB or Albany. [/B] [/QUOTE]

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