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Message: [QUOTE="KaiserUEO, post: 857639, member: 272"] no venom, lets look at the facts. before you jumped into the deep end and stuck your nose into mine and moose's little holiday barb trading, i pointed out that 'win or lose, the iggs are going to be around for a while'. for those of you scoring at home that means i aknowledged they are good this year and going to be 'for a while', not sure why you felt the need to have me state that again, unless of course you couldnt understand it (no venom, just a question) 'Manning went from 1st to worst again'. hmmmm, other than 2004 which was tough for sure...when was he the worst and why is he the worst this year? im confused here. i also didnt know we were discussing Coughlin's mulling of retirement, because well...i didnt know he was mulling it. so yeah, my bad but please enlighten me. enjoy and have a merry. [/QUOTE]