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[QUOTE="Pyle, post: 1593738, member: 137"]
Hey Townie and others, I'm 41, half-way to retirement. I am in a relationship with a woman who has 2 grandchildren and my two favorite teams are SU and anyone who beats Rutgers. I've been watching SU football for a long time. You guys are seriously stuck in the last century(which was a long time ago). Stop acting like this is some young internet fan thing. SU hasn't been good in 15 years. That's a long time. A really long time. Set the bar too low? I didn't set the bar, the results on the field have. As a matter of fact, if you look at the rise of SU in the 80's/90's  you will notice that we were good for about the same amount of time that we've been bad. This isn't some blip on the radar. Eric Dungey was about 4 years old when Freeney led us to our last top 25 appearance.

We compete for the same recruits, we compete for the same TV markets, and there is genuine disdain between the fanbases. You want specific incidents? Ray Rice committing to them and sending us into a deathspiral is a good start. The Schiano/Grob handshake eye roll is another. Is it a rivalry on the same level as SU/GT or Bama/Auburn? Of course not. But since P's first loss to them, there is absolutely no other team I hate to lose to more than the .A.M.I.L.Y of wood chopping 'Gurls. They are very much a reason why we haven't been able to return to our glory. We feasted off NJ, they took it back and we haven't been the same since. I'm not 100% sure that our fates are linked but I have no doubt there is more than just coincidence at work here.

Sorry about the long post, there was a lot I wanted to respond to.
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