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Message: [QUOTE="DoctorBombay, post: 1593956, member: 626"] Here's the thing...and to use your own example of the Detroit Lions. Your Lions had a great history once, as have alot of NFL teams, etc. However, they've pretty much sucked even w/ Barry Sanders. However, what the Lions will never do, and have never done, is to cleave themselves onto another team and declare themselves their rivals, w/out their being a viable reason for it. They have traditional rivals in the Bears, Packers, and Vikings- rivalries which developed over time when all those franchises were sometimes up, AND other times down. Again...what has Rutgers done to earn this unwavering rival status from the ROSUF (Rutgers Obsessed SU Fan), other than a few years of being mediocre, coinciding with our program being in the crapper? When have they ever had any other program, other than some baffingly starstruck fans of SU, looking up to them and choking in their dust? When I first joined this forum going back a few sites ago on S KoW t and so on, I couldn't understand the fascination with Rutgers by some. Why? Because I, and everyone I knew, absent from those who populate this forum, never ever considered them to be SU's rival. I submit that that's still the case today. Wanting to laugh at their expense, or make fun of their missteps should not, IMHO, place them in the loftier rank of a rival...unless of course you think that SU doesn't merit being in that loftier rank as well. I wholeheartedly disagree. I think we've EARNED it on the field, and over a longer period of time, other than that 15 year window which some remain fixated on. Also, the fact that their recruiting picked up at our expense during that down time makes them a COMPETITOR, not a RIVAL. There is a difference. [/QUOTE]

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