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Message: [QUOTE="Townie72, post: 1600603, member: 780"] Your propensity to get in heated conversations with Rutgers and UConn fans says more about you than it does about SU rivals. And you don;t have to use my criteria. But you do have to use some criteria instead of "I personally dislike them". In my opinion, anyone that suggests that SU and RU are rivals is denigrating the history and traditions of a great college athletic program by comparing them to a school whose whole history can be characterized as awful. The amazing thing about Rutgers is that they have been so bad for so long. Look at their basketball program. They sit in the middle of the greatest recruiting grounds that exist and yet they can't field an even average team. In the last couple of years they have lost to just about evry other NJ school and they are about to get their ass kicked by Monmouth College. [/QUOTE]