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Message: [QUOTE="SUFaninNJ, post: 1601126, member: 2376"] I don't have a problem with BC being our rival. Or Pitt for that matter. IMHO it's the closest to a rival we have in football. I've never thought of RU as a rival and doubt that I ever well. I grew up in Syracuse but have lived in NJ during their rise to mediocrity. Schiano is/was a douche, but he's not their coach anymore. We have a new coach, they have a new coach, so bringing up the coaches hate for each other is irrelevant. We may have lost a few average recruits to them for a couple of years, but those years, we were losing good recruits to everyone. If people want to view them as a rival, that's their prerogative. I just don't happen to agree. I still look at them with pity, not as an equal. That being said, I'd much rather this thread go back to poking fun at Rutgers rather than trying to convince others that your idea of a rival is the correct one. [/QUOTE]