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Message: [QUOTE="otisco, post: 380855, member: 391"] Yes, our turnovers have been aplenty, largely self-induced, untimely, etc. However, our defense (and special teams to a much lesser extent) is not evening out the turnover margin, despite how well it has been playing lately and improving. Through the Rutgers game, SU's turnover margin is -1.67, good for a tie for 115th nationally. Rutgers, by comparison, is tied for 1st nationally at +2.17 with Bama, LA Tech, and Mississippi State. This is not intended to defend the fall-on-our-own sword mistakes, goalline misplays, etc., but it is likely that SU's record would be different if our D could force some turnovers. In which case some emotions here would be less extreme. [/QUOTE]