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Message: [QUOTE="ImperialOrange, post: 5530541, member: 362"] Nothing alleged about it... Franklin was personally contacting r@pe victims of his football players at Vandy. It's wild how many forget that. What's more wild is that after Sandusky did what he did, and Paterno with full knowledge and control covered it up, they STILL hired Franklin because Billy O didn't win enough while trying to run a cleanish program in the wake of Sandusky. *rant warning As to Penn State fans there are multiple camps none of which stopped following the program after Sandusky. The range of which are as follows: -Embarrassed but still support -Indifferent and still support -"Joepa didn't know" -"Joepa did what he was supposed to when he contacted campus police" which coined the term Paterno'ing IE the bare minimum. This group gets especially flustered when you ask why Sandusky was still allowed open access all over campus even after his firing. -and the group that very much exists in large numbers that some here haven't had the pleasure of dealing with is "Sandusky didn't even do anything... there's no proof!!!" To any who haven't had the privilege of those please do visit blackshoesdiaries (Penn State forum) and indulge I know people in all 5 groups, the latter 3 of which always got REALLY annoyed over the Franklin years every time I brought up his Vandy r@pe cover ups involvement. All this hits very close to home for me as as a Cuse die hard and PA native. Until Sandusky I would half support Penn State because lot's of acquaintances did and Joepa seemed to "do it the right way". More than that though many of us Cuse fans had to think long and hard about our fan hood during the Bernie Fine investigations which... unlike Penn State... we're ACTUAL investigations. IF Fine had been found any shred of guilty I would not be posting as a Syracuse fan today. I came to peace with losing the biggest part of my sporting fan hood if allegations were found true. As such I don't feel bad for hating on the PSU cult fan base any worse than I do for hating on other historically important teams that allowed murders or r@pist head coaches a free pass so long as their win column looked good. *end rant [/QUOTE]

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