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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 5543990, member: 4809"] brian doyle murray christmas vacation: picks up the office phone and says " get me somebody, anybody". that is our entire coaching staff at this time. we have people but they can't get on the same page. including stupid penalties. there is talent why do we stink so bad???? maybe the coaching staff and captains need an honest conversation. forget the kumbaya temporarily , just keep it performance based, factual accountable, disciplined, without condescending overtones. players have a responsibility to learn and perform. we have some really good young players and veterans, collins is NOT the only one responsible for this utter failure. [/QUOTE]