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The Scott Shafer Show (before Duke)

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The show this year will be broadcast from the Canyons at Destiny USA in front of Cantina Laredo. I don’t know if they will take questions from the audience there but they say you can watch the show whereas when it was at a restaurant, their table tended to be in a secluded location. You can call in questions at 1-888-7-Go Cuse (746-2873) or, locally 424-8599. You can also send them in advance at this site:

http://cuse.com/sb_output.aspx?form=4

(I do both so they can be prepared to give me an informed, reasoned answer.) You can also contact them via Twitter (@SUSportsNetwork) using #AskShafe. The football show is an hour in duration, (Coach Boeheim’s basketball show is usually 2 hours).


They’ve actually been kind enough to post a schedule in advance:

The show will air at 7 pm on the following dates:
Wednesday, Aug. 27
Thursday, Sept. 11
Thursday, Sept. 18
Thursday, Sept. 25
Wednesday, Oct. 1
Thursday, Oct. 9
Thursday, Oct. 16
Thursday, Oct. 23
Thursday, Oct. 30
Thursday, Nov. 6
Thursday, Nov. 13
Wednesday, Nov. 26


The show can be heard in Syracuse on FM 99.5. It’s sometime simulcast on AM 1260 or FM 97.7. You can also get it on: http://tunein.com/radio/WGVA-1240-s29191/




My Question(s)


“Coach, after the Duke game, your team will finally get a week off. Injuries have played a big roil in what’s happened this season. I realize you can’t be specific about an individual player’s condition so I’ll ask a general question about the injured players. Is the nature of most of their injuries such that the week off will allow them to return and play at least close to their full capacities? Or are they such that we are unlikely to see them the rest of the year or, if they do play, they’d be very limited in what they can do?”




The Show


(I sometimes re-arrange the comments so that statements made on the same subject are reported together, even if they came at different points of the show.)


Brian Higgins asked about AJ Long. “On the Sunday injury check he showed some soft tissue damage. We noticed a cleat mark between his neck and shoulder blades and joked about it. Then the struggled in practice. I don’t know if the nerve is pressed or what. Austin Wilson is back. Missy, (his wife) is ready to play quarterback. Paulie, (their producer) is warming up. We’ll entertain anything and everything you could imagine to win this game for the seniors.” He went over some of the seniors who will be playing their last game in the Dome- Camron Lynch, Dyshawn Davis, Ritchy Desir, Micah Robinson, Eric Crume. “We’ve had very few issues with them. They have high character.”


I called in my question about who might be able to come back from their injuries with the bye week. He organized his answer thusly:


Out for the year are Ross Krautman, (he’s working as a restaurant at Destiny and coach waved at him while talking about this), Keenan Hale and Rodney Winters. Winters will be back next year. The other two have seen the end of their careers.


Marquez Hodge, Terrel Hunt, Wayne Morgan and John Raymon are “doubtful for the season”.


Ashton Broyld should be back for Pittsburgh and “maybe Brisley Estime”. With Nick Robinson, it’s a “process”. AJ Long; “We’ll see.” John Miller will be a “probable”. Wayne Williams is “close- for a few snaps”.


He added a positive note: “With all these injuries we’ve learned a lot about the guys, especially those who would not have played without the injuries. “ I’ll add that the residue of this is that we’ll have a lot more experienced players next year than we’ve had in a long time, because so many guys have had to play. “It’s a collision sport, the best sport ever evented. The kids really put their bodies out there.” He recalled one time North Illinois had to use a 5th string quarterback- Craig Harmon. He went on to become a coach.


John called in, (and through technical problems- the radio audience could hear him but not Brian or the Coach) asked coach about Mitch Kimble. “He’s from Southern Illinois. He was an engineering major but recently changed. He’s got all the tools- especially speed. He had a back problem for a while and had to have a little procedure.”


Brian then asked about Austin Wilson. “Big strong arm, learning to read defenses with consistence can make them pay vs. man coverage. Recognition is the whole key- and good protection. Everybody talks about the quarterback all the time but there are 21 other guys out there. It will be interesting to see how the newbies up front show up.”


Dave called in to ask about the decision to eschew the fake punt or field goal and punt the ball late in the game. Coach: “We were really going for it but they called a time-out and the element of surprise was lost. It would have bene a 54 yard field goal. I felt there was time left and you have got to look at what has been going well. Our defense had been going well. I tho9ught maybe they could get a fumble or an interception. It’s not always a good idea to just press because you’re on the edge of the red zone.”


They talked about Duke and the Coach had a slight note of sarcasm while offering praise. “They’ve done a nice job of working their formula, the way they’ve scheduled. They played Elon, who is 1-8, Troy who is also 1-8, Kansas, who has struggled. I think they are 2-6, and Tulane which I believe is also 2-6. They got it rolling and are playing with great confidence. They are the 4th or 5th top 25 team we’ve played this year.” Coach also made mention of our schedule with the 9 straight games, three of them against teams coming off of a bye week. The question is: was his commentary directed at Duke or at Doctor Gross or the conference in providing him with such a difficult schedule?


Coach said that Duke’s leading receiver, Jamison Crowder, reminded him of Brisley Estime, “great separation and great body control”. I see Crowder has 49 catches for 636 yards and 4TDs. Brisley has 10 catches for 140 yards and one touchdown. That kind of illustrates how the two teams seasons have gone.


Antony Boone is “a seasoned quarterback. When no one is open, he doesn’t take sacks. He gets rid of the ball. But he also doesn’t throw interceptions. He has a veteran line in front of him that has played a lot of games shoulder-to-shoulder. He’s 17-3 as a starter and that’s what counts.”


John in Baltimore ask for a summary of the current recruiting class. Brian suggested that all the injuries might convince some players to come here because there will be openings. Coach: “We’ve had a lot of success on the rail. I can’t talk about individual players. There’s a lot of ebb and flow to it. Kids waiver a bit. So do we. When we have injuries we might have to re-think who we need.” This may be what happened with Gerald Robinson).


Tom in Baldwinsville reminded the coach that things are never as bad or as good as they seem. He said that used to play for Baldwinsville when they weren’t so good and recalled how hard it was to go to practice as it became apparent that the season was not going well. Tom appreciates the fact that this team has never quit. Coach thanked him for his appreciation and went into his speech about controlling the controlables. “You can’t control it if the other team has a great quarterback, if you are 5-8 and somebody else is 6-3, etc.” (That injuries would come in this category was so obvious he didn’t say it). Among the controlables are “attitude, effort and enthusiasm and this team has never lost that. Players are always coming me to ask what they can do next. We’ve got to set an example for this community. “


Apparently somebody had complained about players celebrating making a good play in a loss, so the coach took this occasion to answer them. “We play one play at a time. You never know when it’s going to be your last play. You can ask 19 of our guys, (presumably the ones currently injured). That’s how we keep playing hard in the fourth quarter.”


They are ending the show these days with some silly questions form the producer, Paulie. This time he asked which historical figure Coach would most like to have lunch with. Coach did not give a silly answer, however. “Abe Lincoln. In fact, I’d like to bring the team to lunch with him. He was 0 for 17 in political campaigns until he won the big one.”
 
On the punt answer, he thought maybe they could get an interception or a fumble.

I swear some of these guys are reading from a script.

I wonder if he noticed they were an unforced overthrow away from a 90 yard TD pass. They never think of that possibility.
 
On the punt answer, he thought maybe they could get an interception or a fumble.

I swear some of these guys are reading from a script.

I wonder if he noticed they were an unforced overthrow away from a 90 yard TD pass. They never think of that possibility.
Yeah. That paragraph made me feel ill. Then angry.
 
OttoinGrotto said:
Yeah. That paragraph made me feel ill. Then angry.

This answer (and it's the second time he's used it!!) is why anyone saying Shafer gets two more years no matter what needs to reevaluate their opinion. Not only does he not learn from mistakes made out of universally faulty logic, he doesn't even acknowledge they're mistakes. He does not learn from experience. At all.
 
This game is huge...

If we get a win somehow here and get healthy watch out. Bring it!
 
The amount of anger in this town continues to amaze me, as well as the fact that it's directed at a football c oach.
Well, we are talking about football are we not? The only game in town?
 
Chip said:
On the punt answer, he thought maybe they could get an interception or a fumble. I swear some of these guys are reading from a script. I wonder if he noticed they were an unforced overthrow away from a 90 yard TD pass. They never think of that possibility.

Impeccable logic. Maybe they could get a turnover and get the ball back...possibly right where they had it to begin with.

Convert the 4th and 3 there, score a TD, and the odds are in our favor to win.

Or hope for a turnover.

Unreal.
 
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Too bad about Raymon. Worked hard to come back, now he's out for s prolonged period again.

And we should have known better when they said Hunt might be back for the last two games.
 
SWC75 said:
The amount of anger in this town continues to amaze me, as well as the fact that it's directed at a football coach.
he say anything about Foy?
 
Scooch said:
Impeccable logic. Maybe they could get a turnover and get the ball back...possibly right where they had it to begin with. Convert the 4th and 3 there, score a TD, and the odds are in our favor to win. Or hope for a turnover. Unreal.

If everything (except the magical turnover) goes your way, you get the ball back at the 50.

That's great field position! (Umm It's not as good as their 37)
 
If everything (except the magical turnover) goes your way, you get the ball back at the 50.

That's great field position! (Umm It's not as good as their 37)
Coaches lie. They don't actually value the ball. They just don't.
 
Lits44 said:
This answer (and it's the second time he's used it!!) is why anyone saying Shafer gets two more years no matter what needs to reevaluate their opinion. Not only does he not learn from mistakes made out of universally faulty logic, he doesn't even acknowledge they're mistakes. He does not learn from experience. At all.

His next answers about how they are fighting even though they haven't been winning - is your answer. He is getting all he can from a depleted roster and you think his choice to punt is reason to fire him? Sheesh.
 
His next answers about how they are fighting even though they haven't been winning - is your answer. He is getting all he can from a depleted roster and you think his choice to punt is reason to fire him? Sheesh.
It's not reason to fire him, but it is maddening. You fight to put yourself in position to win. And the you get in to that position, and literally punt on the opportunity... I'm not saying what's the point, but I just have a hard time understanding how casually Shafer has given up at times, and how irrational his reasons for doing it are.
 
TheCusian said:
His next answers about how they are fighting even though they haven't been winning - is your answer. He is getting all he can from a depleted roster and you think his choice to punt is reason to fire him? Sheesh.

Never said anything about firing him now. I was saying he should get another year to prove he can adapt and learn in this role, but not a blanket two more years no matter what. This repeated defending of horrible punting decisions because "we might get a turnover" has to make you question that ability. Even the people that defend SS at every decision weren't defending that punt. And if you do, I guarantee you're in a very, very small group.
 
OttoinGrotto said:
Yeah. That paragraph made me feel ill. Then angry.
Were you expecting a good answer?
 
OttoinGrotto said:
It's not reason to fire him, but it is maddening. You fight to put yourself in position to win. And the you get in to that position, and literally punt on the opportunity... I'm not saying what's the point, but I just have a hard time understanding how casually Shafer has given up at times, and how irrational his reasons for doing it are.

That's fair. I was more responding to the poster who was combining that with "he's the wrong guy" fire him stuff. ;)
 
Lits44 said:
Never said anything about firing him now. I was saying he should get another year to prove he can adapt and learn in this role, but not a blanket two more years no matter what. This repeated defending of horrible punting decisions because "we might get a turnover" has to make you question that ability. Even the people that defend SS at every decision weren't defending that punt. And if you do, I guarantee you're in a very, very small group.

It's a knock against him for sure. He's a defensive guy. They always think that way.

But it's one thing.
 
I wonder what the odds are for getting a turnover or making the first down in that exact situation. I like Shafer but that answer is kind of goofy. I want him to say to the offense...go for it, the defense has your back.

I like the rest of his answers. The guy has been kicked in the nuts with injuries, schedule and "interesting" moments this season and he's battling just like he asks the kids to do.
 
SmilinBob said:
I wonder what the odds are for getting a turnover or making the first down in that exact situation. I like Shafer but that answer is kind of goofy. I want him to say to the offense...go for it, the defense has your back. I like the rest of his answers. The guy has been kicked in the nuts with injuries, schedule and "interesting" moments this season and he's battling just like he asks the kids to do.
Less than 33% (conservatively pessimistic odds of conversion), we know that

There are sites and charts that assign the expected points for having the ball at every point of the field allowing you to back into a break even first down conversion percentage
 
Millhouse said:
Less than 33% (conservatively pessimistic odds of conversion), we know that There are sites and charts that assign the expected points for having the ball at every point of the field allowing you to back into a break even first down conversion percentage

There's no site that can convince some of these coaches that there isn't a 100% chance of the oblong ball with pointy ends bouncing perfectly inside the 5 and then you will be getting the turnover.

It actually happened once this year so, for planning purposes, you must assume it will always happen.
 
There's no site that can convince some of these coaches that there isn't a 100% chance of the oblong ball with pointy ends bouncing perfectly inside the 5 and then you will be getting the turnover.

It actually happened once this year so, for planning purposes, you must assume it will always happen.
i think a lot of it is meathead disdain for kickers. you have one job, you're not a real football player, i don't care what the data says, kick the ball out of bounds at the 2, make that field goal
 
Impeccable logic. Maybe they could get a turnover and get the ball back...possibly right where they had it to begin with.

Convert the 4th and 3 there, score a TD, and the odds are in our favor to win.

Or hope for a turnover.

Unreal.
The mindset used to drive me crazy. Now I shake my head and channel Merlin from Excalibur (to Uther): You're not the one.

Hoping the other team loses rather than trying to win. :bang:
 
This answer (and it's the second time he's used it!!) is why anyone saying Shafer gets two more years no matter what needs to reevaluate their opinion. Not only does he not learn from mistakes made out of universally faulty logic, he doesn't even acknowledge they're mistakes. He does not learn from experience. At all.
im lost what mistake did he make again?
 

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