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Message: [QUOTE="elimunelson, post: 1989235, member: 615"] Depends on what your define as "Rise". BC and Syracuse are never ever ever going to be perpetual top 10 programs. The history of both programs show me enough evidence to be confident stating that. Both programs, which are very similar, thrive with continuity and the patience of the fan base to accept and relish good results vs demanding excellence like a Clemson and FSU. I think it's a good way to view these programs. Even Marrone at his apex, won 8 games. If we were looking at Marrone season 8 or 9 right now, we'd be happy if he kept winning 8-9 games and going to bowls each year (like Tom O'Brien did). With Addazio moving into year 5, he's going to offer continuity and consistency to recruits and that's something they can build on. Next year OOC, they play Uconn, Central Michigan, Northern Illinios and ND (at home vs us who plays them always on the road or on the road). They could win all of those games. [/QUOTE]