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The Undefeated - Week 8

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It’s October and so I will once again chart the future challenges of the undefeated in major college football. Once November comes I’ll include the one-loss teams. We now have a four team playoff, (maybe someday we’ll move to 8 with auto bids for the Power Five champions), so more of these teams will continue to have a chance until the very end of the regular season. I’ll limit my coverage to ranked teams. (For fun I’ll also keep track of the teams eligible for the Tidy Bowl, which decides the worst team in the country, although I’ll not spend as much time on them. I think I’ll do a four team playoff for that, too, this year.)

MISSISSIPPI STATE 6-0 (250-120) #1 in both polls

Sat 10/25 at Kentucky (5-2)
Sat 11/1 Arkansas (3-4)
Sat 11/8 UT Martin (3-5 in FCS)
Sat 11/15 at #4 Alabama (6-1)
Sat 11/22 Vanderbilt (2-5)
Sat 11/29 at #3 Mississippi (7-0)

Comment Mississippi State, with their blow-out wins at LSU and over Texas A&M and Auburn at home has been the most impressive team so far. But they have their challenges, as well with a surprising Kentucky a revived Alabama and Ole Miss in Oxford at the end of the season. But I like their odds of running the table. They just seem to have “it”. Versus Ranked teams: 99 points (best in the country).

FLORIDA STATE 7-0-0 (265-151) #2 both polls

Thu 10/30 at Louisville (6-2)
Sat 11/8 Virginia (4-3)
Sat 11/15 at Miami (5-3)
Sat 11/22 Boston College (4-3)
Sat 11/29 Florida (3-3)

Comment: Well, they got by Clemson and Notre Dame but the Noles are not home free, although they won’t face a currently ranked team the rest of the way, (likely including the conference title game). I still think they’ll get dinged somewhere along the way. Louisville is lying in wait. Boston College game them the most trouble in the regular season last year. Miami and Florida are rivalry games and Virginia has a winning record. Can Jameis Winston keep playing? Can FSU keep blade-running? Stay tuned. Versus Ranked Teams: 35 points.

MISSISSIPPI 7-0 (248-74) #3 in both polls

Sat 10/25 at #24/#23 Louisiana State (6-2)
Sat 11/1 #5-6 Auburn (5-1)
Sat 11/8 Presbyterian (4-3 in FCS)
BYE
Sat 11/22 at Arkansas (3-4)
Sat 11/29 #1 Mississippi State (6-0)

Comment: I think it would be great if the “Egg Bowl” were a battle of undefeated teams ranked in the top 5, (maybe the Top 2), and looking ahead to a possible spot in the four team playoffs. A combination of new blood and an old rivalry. (I also like it when teams that were good when SU was really good in the 50’s and 60’s do well: it suggests we can be good in this era, too.) I think the Rebels have a slightly tougher road than the Bulldogs. Versus Ranked Teams: 56 points.

MARSHALL 7-0 (332-116) #23 in the writer’s poll and #22 in the coaches poll.

Sat 10/25 Florida Atlantic 3-5
BYE
Sat 11/8 at Southern Mississippi 3-4
Sat 11/15 Rice 3-3
Sat 11/22 at Alabama-Birmingham 4-3
Friday 11/28 Western Kentucky 2-4

Mea Culpa- I actually missed them last week when they cracked the top 25. Let’s get theflux capacitor going and return to 1999! Most impressively, they scored at least 42 points in every game this year. Least impressively, they have yet to play a ranked team all season and will not be playing one the rest of the way. They are a cinch to go 12-0 and it’s a cinch that all it will get them is a minor bowl game. But scoring 40+ against every opponent would indeed be impressive. I doubt anybody has ever done that.


Bye-Bye Baylor and Notre Dame, (and Hello, Marshall). But they could be back as we are down to three undefeated teams who are in the Top ten, (sorry Marshall), which means that there will be at least one loss team in the national championship playoff. That’s hardly a surprise. We haven’t ended the regular season with four undefeated teams since 2009- but we had 5 then. Fans of the old BCS are probably rooting for there to be two unbeaten so that can ask what we need these two other teams for. Fans of an eight team playoff, (like me) will be rooting for there to be enough one loss teams that the combined total of them and the undefeated teams will exceed 5. Here are the total undefeated and one loss teams, year by year for the last decade:

2004 4-3, 2005 2-4, 2006 2-4, 2007 1-2, 2008 2-7, 2009 5-1, 2010 3-6, 2011 1-5, 2012 2-5 and 2013 1-9, (yes, 9). That’s an average of 2- 5.

I’ll get into detail about our current one loss teams in November but here is the current list: Baylor, Notre Dame, Auburn, Alabama, Michigan State, Oregon, Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas Christian, Ohio State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona State, East Carolina, Nebraska, Utah and Colorado State. For now, take your pick.

THE TIDY BOWL

Amazingly, only one FBS team, and none from power conferences, is still winless:
SOUTHERN METHODIST 0-6 They play 1-6 Tulsa, 1-5 Connecticut, and 3-4 South Florida

The Bottom Four will have to include three of these one-loss teams: Connecticut, Georgia State, Idaho, Kent State, Miami of Ohio, (sorry Accurater 2- they’ve got to earn their way out of this- Kent State is next), Troy and Tulsa
 
SWC75 -- Thanks for doing this! Solid information and thoughts.

I see Mississippi State losing to Alabama or Ole Miss at Ole Miss the last week of the season. Those are two dang tough games to have to play still. Plus its just tougher if you haven't been there before and Miss. State certainly hasn't been there before.

I think Ole Miss has a much better chance to run the table, because I think LSU and Auburn are both easier games than playing Alabama at this point. After getting embarrassed by Arkansas and only winning by a point, Alabama beat the tar out of Texas aTm this week 59-0. LSU has been nowhere near as good as I expected after squeaking by Florida and getting killed by Auburn. Auburn did win at a pretty decent Kansas State squad and killed LSU, but they lost bad at Mississippi State and play Ole Miss at Ole Miss sandwiched between games against South Carolina and Texas aTm.

I also would love to see the egg bowl decide it. I don't think there'll be two unbeatens in that game, but I'll be rooting for that.

I can't see FSU losing with that easy schedule remaining, including to Louisville with two weeks to prepare right now.

Marshall can't possibly lose to any on its remaining schedule. I'm headed to this weekend's game to see Rakeem Cato in action. He's an incredible athlete and they are pretty entertaining to watch. I think they'll make a much better bowl as an unbeaten than you do, but certainly not in the playoff picture even if all the other current unbeatens have a loss and they obviously don't deserve to, either.

After this weekend and where things stand right now, I'd put the following four in the playoff:

FSU
Ole Miss
Oregon
Michigan State

Hopefully if these are the 4, they'll split up Oregon and Michigan State since they've already played this year.
 
The B1G stinks this year. Watch out for TCU if they win out with 1 loss ...and they don't have an additional chance to lose in a conference title game.
 
Bye-Bye Baylor and Notre Dame, (and Hello, Marshall). But they could be back as we are down to three undefeated teams who are in the Top ten, (sorry Marshall), which means that there will be at least one loss team in the national championship playoff.

Minor quibble - there will be at least two 1-loss teams in the playoff since the Mississippi teams will have played each other before then.

I think maximum chaos ensues if either Alabama or Auburn is the team left out of the playoff in a three-way tie scenario with the Mississippi teams.
 
Duke and Minnesota have one loss.

I'll have to get out my glasses again.
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The 4 will be...

FSU
Michigan State or Ohio State
Oregon
Alabama or Miss State
 

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