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Message: [QUOTE="triplethrea, post: 1077862, member: 1574"] I mean, I see your entire response filled with swiss cheese holes. What's frustrating is how you label things and then create absolutes "this will NEVER happen" when the real world is not made of absolutes. You strike me as a person who puts his fingers in his/her ears and screams "la la la". First off, there is nothing silly about Dave85's premise. You label it "silly" then dismiss it without explanation. Are we in middle school debate class? Let's take what you say point by point. The only reasons athletes have no leverage to demand money is because of the piece of paper they sign every year from the NCAA saying that they are not allowed to. If the courts rule it is unconstitutional, then all of a sudden students CAN demand money. You see how this works? Change the rules and suddenly it's not so "ridiculous on every level". People seem to forget that back in the day somebody just made up the rules, and if the right people choose, they can just change the rules all over again (or just make changes/exceptions). Anything is possible. Same thing goes for Title IX. All the people ripping their hair out saying "THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE OF TITLE IX!!!!!" forget that just as easily as they created Title IX, they can make changes to it based on certain situations. People seem to think that just because there is a rock in the middle of the road, it's there forever. Well, we can always just get rid of it. You label a lot of things as "comical, silly and stupid" without offering too deep an explanation. Your argument style is "you can't do X because of Y, and because of that X is silly". A lot of talk, very little actually said. You also have an unusual amount of emotion tied up in your questionable logic, which makes it difficult to debate with you. This entire paragraph was based on your faulty premise from the previous paragraph. Nothing said here. Really? This is the ONLY way it will work? The one and only, and no other possible way in the entire universe? Wow, what a black and white world we live in! You sound like you're trying to scare people out of this. Yes, they can include terms in contracts. Yes, they might potentially screw kids over. But something you forgot, the kids will have agents and lawyers who will be paid to make sure that they are not getting screwed too bad. And if a college wants a high-level recruit really bad, they might need to eliminate the 4 year contract, and have an opt-out option every year. Goes both ways my friend. I think people are going to be shocked how much leverage college recruits are going to have over schools. Wiggins-type players will be treated like Carmelo is being treated this week. Roll out the red carpet. You remind me of a condescending parent talking to a teenager "Oh you want to get rid of your bicycle and get a car? Well did you know about car insurance, huh? Bet you didn't. Did you know about oil changes, changing tires, drinking and driving, car accidents, etc.". Yes, change comes with potential problems. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. Most problems get straightened out over time. Kids learn defensive driving, pay their car insurance, and wear their seat belt eventually. People adapt. You offer a couple scary possible situations, claim it is the ONLY thing that could happen, then say "Student-athletes" have a way better deal. I won't be debating with you anymore. You're more interested in fear-mongering and emotional arguments. I don't do emotional arguments. Sorry. [/QUOTE]

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