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There is no question whatsoever that the next HC is going to have a season or two where we are worse than a bubble team
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[QUOTE="SWC75, post: 2970665, member: 289"] Here is a list of coaches with 600 or more wins. let's take a look. [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_men%27s_basketball_coaches_with_600_wins"]List of college men's basketball coaches with 600 wins - Wikipedia[/URL] [B]Mike Krzyzewski [/B]is 72 and has the #1 overall seed. [B]Jim Boeheim[/B] is 74 and went to the Final Four in 2016, the Sweet 16 in 2018 and got us into the tournament with an injured point guard this year. We competed well against Duke, UNC and even Virginia for 30 minutes. [B]Bob Knight[/B] retired at 67 to give his son the job he had. he was still winning but his last really good season was when he was 52. [B]Jim Calhoun [/B]retired at age 70 having just won the national championship the year before. he left a strong enough program that Connecticut would win another national title two years later. Then it declined badly as his influenced waned. [B]Dean Smith[/B] retired at age 67 to give his long-time assistant. Bill Gutheridge a shot at coaching the team. They went to the Final Four in Smith's last year and in Gutheridge's first. [B]Adolph Rupp [/B]retired at age 70. His last team made it the Elite 8. [B]Roy Williams[/B] is 68 and has a #1 seed. Let's see if he declines in his 70's. [B]Bob Huggins[/B] is 65. They just had a bad season after two Sweet 16 teams. maybe he should hang it up. [B]Cliff Ellis [/B]is 73. He used to coach Clemson and Auburn. he's now at a less demanding job at Coastal Carolina. [B]Eddie Sutton [/B]retired at 72 as an interim coach art USF. He's resigned at Oklahoma State due to substance abuse problems but had coached a Final Four team at 68 and a Sweet 16 team at 69. [B]Lefty Driesell[/B] retired at 71. he'd lost his job at Maryland at age 54 due to scandal but re-surfaced at James Madison and Georgia State, where he had a 29-5 team that pulled an opening round upset of Wisconsin at age 69. [B]Lute Olson[/B] retired at age 72. He's had an Elite 8 team at age 70, then declined to losses in the second then the first round the next two years. he retired due to significant health problems. [B]Lou Henson[/B] retired from Illinois at age 64 and went back to New Mexico State, where he'd first made his name, but was unable to duplicate his previous success and retired at age 73. His last really strong team had been at Illinois in 1989, (the team that beat us in the Elite 8) when he was 58. [B]Ed Diddle[/B] retired at age 69 after two straight 5-16 years. His last really good team had been in 1954, when he was 59. He was replaced by Johnny Oldham, a former player who had been the head coach at Tennessee tech and promptly went 18-9 and then 25-3. [B]Hank Iba[/B] retired from Oklahoma State at 65. He's had an Elite 8 team at age 60 but his teams were mediocre after that. he's primarily known for two things: Winning two national championships with the games first good 7 footer, Bob Kurland in the 40's and being the coach of the first US Olympic team to lose in 1972. He liked a slow pace that helped his usually undermanned teams to stay in the game. it helped the Russian stay in the game until everything hit the fan at the end of the game. [B]John Beilein[/B] is 66 and has a 2 seed this year. [B]Bo Ryan[/B] retired at 68 to give his assistant the job after having an NCAA runner-up the year before. [B]Phog Allen[/B] retired at age 70 He's had an NCAA champion at 66 and a runner-up at 67 but slipped to 11-10 and 14-9 in his last two seasons. But he'd just recruited Wilt Chamberlain and gave his assistant, Dick Harp, the chance to coach him. [B]Jerry Tarkanian [/B]coached until age 71. His glory years at UNLV had ended in controversy at age 61 but he coached Fresno State to a 26-7 record and a first round NCAA win at age 70. [B]Norm Stewart [/B]retired with health issues at 64 with a 20-9 NCAA team. [B]Ray Meyer[/B] retired in favor of his son at age 70, having gone 27-3 in his last year and 180-30 in his last seven seasons. [B]Don Haskins [/B]retired at age 69 having gone 16-12, his first winning season in four years. [B]John Calipari [/B]is 60 and has a 2 seed. [B]Rick Barnes[/B] is 64 and has a 2 seed. [B]Bill Self [/B]is 56. At 26-9 he had his worse team in 5 years. [B]Mike Montgomery[/B] retired at 67 with an NIT team. there had been a controversy after he had shoved a player in the chest. [B]Denny Crum[/B] retired at age 64 with a 12-19 team. His last good team had been five years before. Rick Pitino took over and went 19-13, then 25-7. He was in the Final Four two years later. [B]Gary Williams[/B] retired at age 66 with a 19-14 record. he'd been 24-9 the year before. His national title had been age 55. [B]John Wooden[/B] retired at age 64 with a national championship. he seemed like an old man at the time. I am now 65. [B]Ralph Miller[/B] retired at age 70 with a 22-8 team that lost in the first round. [B]Rick Pitino[/B] was 64 when he was fired over various controversies. His last team was 25-9 and lost in the second round. [B]Jim Larranaga[/B] is 69 and had a 14-18 record this year after two first round losses. he was 27-8 at age 65. [B]Billy Tubbs[/B] retired at age 71 coaching Lamar to a 17-14 season. His last really good team was a 27-6 team at age 63. Jerk. [B]Dana Altman [/B]is age 60 and his team is playing today. [B]Lon Kruger [/B]is 66. His Oklahoma team is playing today. [B]Hugh Durham[/B] finished at age 67 coaching Jacksonville to a 16-13 record. He hadn't made the NCAA tournament in 15 years. [B]Stew Morrill[/B] retired at 62 with an 18-13 team. He's had a 30-4 team at age 58. His NCAA record: 1-9. His NIT record: 0-6. great regular season coach. [B]Tubby Smith[/B] is coaching high point at age 67. They went 16-15. He hasn't had a single digit loss team since he was 53. [B]Tom Izzo [/B]is 64 and has a 2 seed. The fact is, there just isn't much information available about 74 year old coaches. I guess the big takeaway is that even the greatest coaches are usually retired by then. But here's no evidence here that they "hit the wall" at some specific point. Maybe the best comparison is to Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden in football. Paterno was still winning, (his team was 8-1 when he quit). He was 84 at the time. Bowden was 80. he was still winning, too but was 7-6 in his last year. His last 10 win season had been 6 years before. But football coaches have a much larger staff and can be more the CEO type of leader. I just think you need to judge each situation individually, instead of declaring that someone can no longer coach because of his numerical age. [/QUOTE]
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