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Message: [QUOTE="OttoinGrotto, post: 1308583, member: 297"] I do not see a lack of harmony between pure fandom and being honest. I understand others do. There will be friction there. I also believe that a lot of people consider some of the fair criticisms made on this board to be biting. Mostly it just comes down to different definitons. That is a healthy thing for the board because it leads to discussion, and the hope is if we're talking we're getting smarter and that makes us better fans. Obviously this is an extreme example, but if you get too much of a certain type of agreeable fandom that approaches worship and you end up with Penn State and the inability those fans have to accept reality. [/QUOTE]