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Message: [QUOTE="Crusty, post: 343519, member: 2265"] If we keep finding ways to beat ourselves we will have a tough time getting to a bowl or winning in the BE. This team continues to be undisciplined and that is just a killer. We are not good enough to play like today and expect to win. NW's secondary is a sieve. I don't want to take anything away from Ryan or the O but we played a really bad defense today and we found a way to lose. Very disappointing. At some point the future is now at least in terms of playing like we understand the freakin rules. Just lousy lousy coaching job. I have been a big DM booster but that is just the plain truth. The staff needs to get these guys to have their heads in the game for 60 minutes. It is just fundamental preparation. [/QUOTE]