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Message: [QUOTE="K Otto XLIV, post: 1475823"] That kind of ignores the failure of the first 5 games, no? Some of those issues were McDonald but not all of them. The D was bad during that stretch. I would agree that we put forth a good effort games 6-10. There is no reason to be upset about those games despite the 1-4 record. However those last 2 games coming off the bye week we were not even competitive. I think some fans also forget how many disappointments we had in 2013. We weren't competitive against FSU, Clemson, GA Tech, and Northwestern. I didn't expect to come close to winning any of those games but it would have been nice if they weren't over by halftime. Heck Coach P got fired for going 6-6 and having only 2 of those games. Have expectations fallen that far where 2013 is a good season? I mean Marrone went 21-17 his last 3 years with less of those types of games combined over that span. This year should be a big year for Shafer. He needs to show more than he has. [/QUOTE]