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[QUOTE="SWC75, post: 2525627, member: 289"]
The value would be that you won the conference tournament, an event unto itself. We won the Big east tournament in 1981, 1988, 1992, 2005 and 2006. Those teams won a grand total of 2 NCAA tournament games. But I remember those as exciting tournaments where we came out on top. the fact that it didn't lead to anything didn't change that.

We also won or shared the Big East regular title in 1980, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2010, 2012. The 1987 team played for the national title and the 2003 team won it. None of the others made the Final Four but I remember those seasons fondly because of what those teams did accomplish.

This team has never in any sense been a national championship contender. If we get left out, I don't think anybody here will claim we got snubbed. But this season hasn't been dull or meaningless. You could eliminate the NCAA tournament altogether and we would still be rooting for SU because there are other worthwhile things to accomplish.

I'm just tired of the endless closed-door parsing of the records of teams that obviously aren't elite teams. One team is 20-13 with 3 quadrant one wins and 4 quadrant two wins with 4 road wins and 8-10 in their conference. the other team is 19-14 but they have 4 quadrant one wins, 3 quadrant two wins to go with 3 road wins and a 9-9 conference record.  One gets in and the other does. ugh and double ugh. Either pare it down to the elite teams or included everybody, seed them with math and let them decide it on the court.
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