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Message: [QUOTE="N.Y. Orangeman, post: 471152, member: 21"] While I don't disagree with the point that each student has a significant role in his or her own educational path, I believe the figure you site is some great marketing by KSU. Their standard is public universities since 1986 ([url]http://consider.k-state.edu/scholars/rhodes.htm[/url]). If you look at actual numbers of Rhodes scholars (regardless of when awarded), even amongst public universities, they fall quite a ways down the list: [url]http://www.rhodesscholar.org/winners/college-and-university-winnersd[/url] [/QUOTE]