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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 1149688, member: 78"] the reason you care about third down is because that's preventing us from scoring. so i thought it would be interesting to look at yards and scoring. if you can't move the ball, you can't score. we see that pretty clearly under every coach. when we can move the ball, we still don't score like we should. in this case it's third down. in 2012, they were great at converting third downs but something else caused them to not score like they should in 2012, they were 63rd at getting TD in the red zone. There was still something weird going on with moving the ball between the 20s and not getting TD everyone remembers 2012 as something glorious when it was just pretty good even with mcdonald, they are going to score more, it's really hard not to. will be interesting to see where the year ends up [/QUOTE]