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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 86284, member: 96"] I don't have a problem. You said he was a proven liar and nothing you showed proves he is a proven liar. Jb seeing him? You assume he is lying and JB is telling the truth. That isn't proof. Welsh saying he roomed with Bernie. So what? Did he say he was on the road for those games? If he said he was, who is to say who is lying? He said he had 4 people that would come forward. They didn't. Maybe they didn't want to or changed their minds or whatever. That isn't a lie. You know how many times even cops and prosecutors say they re going to have a witness come forth then they don't? Are they proven liars which discounts everything else they say? I don't recall what he said about the $5K so I'll grant you that one but it doesn't support saying they are "proven liars". [/QUOTE]