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Message: [QUOTE="MCC, post: 2937754, member: 145"] How fortunate then that we took out VA in March 2016 to reach the Final Four. And of course we beat VA in conference play in February 2017, so they haven't beaten us every year in conference play. I'll take the E8 win and eschew their loss to a 16 seed. Recent history shows we have 2 F4s (2014, 2016), while VA has one S16 and one E8. Doubtless they've been exceptional in conference, but I find the sting of losing to them in ACC play assuaged by the disparate NCAA tourney results. [/QUOTE]