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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 1200836, member: 4809"] i said after the first game that this will be a double digit loss season. last night confirmed it for me . no shooters, no half court offense. if we are lucky we may be a bubble team,but more than likely nit. i am going to the game tonite at the garden, not bailing out on su just calling it like i see it. i view this year as a prep year for great things to come. one of jbs best coaching years came with janilus(sp), cipolla and company. i do not see that level of cohesion, and energy with this team. jb will need to be creative with the personnel to be competitive. no cooney hate here, however he adds little in the way of offensive productivity and we cannot depend on him. he, getting way to many minutes with little productivity where we need it most. w/o him we may sacrifice some defense, but we need to find points [/QUOTE]